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IBM, UNIVACSPERRY, BURROUGHS, and friends. Compare 1138wrote, in part: JCL is absolutely appalling, from what I've heard. IBM, UNIVACSPERRY, BURROUGHS, and friends. Compare 1139 Here in alt.folklore.computers, The clbuttic OS2200 environment had nothing like redirection or piping, either, but it's quite possible now for me to do something similar to The original way to do the above... Basically, the problem is that to run a program takes multiple command lines; what, in UNIX, would be then another line for "program" - in which you state how much memory you wish to reserve for the program. This can be mitigated through something called "compiled procedures"; basically, a batch file can be set up for each program one wishes to make it not insanely inconvenient to use. IBM, UNIVACSPERRY, BURROUGHS, and friends. Compare 1140 John Savard command you something for some of the JCL issue has to do w-interactive vis-a-vis batch ... where the batch buttumptions for... The environment I am accustomed to in the mainframe world is IBM hardware with the *Michigan Terminal System* running on it. While UNIX has subdirectories, MTS has line files. Text files can be treated as composed of 256 printable characters; record boundaries are not indicated by character combinations, and so there is no problem with mixing character data and binary data in files; thus, A format in FORTRAN produces no strange and unexpected results, and can be used to make compact data files without having to specify the files are of a special database type. In a number of other ways, MTS was easy and natural to use. Also, unlike UNIX, it was oriented to the big-endian, case-insensitive, carriage-return (not line feed!!!) from terminals to end a line world. When the Macintosh came out, therefore, my thought was that first one should try to get command-line interfaces to catch up with MTS before trying something much more advanced. John Savard
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