Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1456

I wouldn't agree with you. Those people happened to buy our gear and they indirectly influenced what we implemented. There is no formula nor recipe that says, "This is how to make a foobar." That's what we've been trying to state. All we back as an arugment is that we don't know what we're talking about because we know what we're doing.

I am saying that the output of academics isn't what the business wants or needs. What is getting output are people who never grow out of the atbreastude that Bryon is demonstrating here.

Of course not. But a customer's opinion and hands-on experience is far more important than anything those people ever said or did.... unless they were one of our customers.

Nope. That is not how the biz is done. All learning is modified, not negated. A child is taught not to stick fingers into wall

Why do you think I'm spending all of this time arguing about this subject? Do you really, really, really want politicians to tell you how to code?

Oh, good. Then something has changed for the better. The dump had one of the texts that kids buy to "earn" that MCSE. What f***ing crap. It was about a 300-400 page waste of paper. Yet it's got to be bringing millions of bucks. The price of the book wasn't cheap.

MDs are taught that the purpose of doctoring is delivering medical services. CS degrees are not taught that the purpose of developing is to deliver computing services. That's what we're trying to say.

Frankly, I don't know how many other different ways we can explain this. All I can say is that our failures at explaining this to people who will not listen is a real live example of what we are talking about.

BAH

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