Von Neumann machines. The key to space and much else. 2434

: I was comparing German beer to that of the UK. But, US microbrews have : tended to even the score. I'd take a good beer from them over that of : the : UK as well. : Not my fault you have poor taste. Americans drink cold beer because they : don't : like the flavour and have to anesthetize their taste buds.:-) : As for US microbrews, that wheat beer is worse than anything I've ever : tasted : anywhere at any time. You have obviously never been to a decent microbrew pub. Try the one in Baltimore sometime. Get the Maerzen. What's that, worse?

: : : Wasn't one of your beers advertised as having no after-taste? It had : : no before-taste either. : : Samuel Adams isn't too bad, but no match for Theakston's Olde : Peculiar. : : Go to the Augustiener beergarten in Munich and get a liter. Better : than : anything in the UK. : I'm not going to France just get a German beer when I haven't sampled : all English brews yet. France? Munich? Perhaps you need to put down the hash pipe?

Two bites, one hook, the other was Steve O'Hara-Smith. Perhaps you need to take up the fishing rod, they tell me the early bird catches the fishbait.

: : What you mean to say is that we pattern our power elite after your : : own. : : : Of course I mean to say it. I prefer example, it's obviously carried : : the correct message. : : Yes, defend the elites while they steal from you. : I wouldn't vote for the Bush family, I'm not the dumb. But enough people are as he was re-elected.

A full 50% of all Brits are above average intelligence, while half of all Yanks are below average intelligence.

: When asked what he'd do about the greenhouse effect, Bush Sr. : replied "They haven't seen the white house effect yet". Now we have, : no more Big Easy. Defend the elite while they steal from you. Your : breadbasket will move to Canada, Florida will sink beneath the waves : like Atlantis before it. Go on, carry on melting the ice, be : irresponsible. I'm afraid that even when the naysayers agree that something needs to be done, what we do won't fix it. Their belief is that, given enough proof of a problem, that somehow we'll fix it. I think it will get worse before it gets better. How much worse is the question.

: : Spooks infiltrated with oil barons. MI-6 with BP like the CIA and : : Gulf. : : But is that progress or only a better way for the haves to have : more? : : : : I don't doubt that the UK taught us how to run sugar from years : of : : experience with opium. And before you write that off as criminals : and : : the : : like; I'm talking about our governments! : : : You've found yet more examples. : : What you mean to say is that you pattern your power elite after our : own. : : Yes, but I'm not proud of the fact! : Not much I can do, is there? Humanity is out of control as it always : was, heading toward famine and global war. There is always something that can be done.

Yah... it's always been someone else's problem. There was a tale of woe on British TV the other night about a Chinese woman forced into end, but dammit, the population explosion has to be brought under control. If the Chinese make a law saying one child only, then tough if she gets pregnant the second time. But of course the press wants to stir up an emotional response and start a frigging famine without regard when the world population is tripled 100 years down the road. The cure for famine is rest of the hungry. The math is simple, the solution will be found by Nature whether we cry now or cry later. One rest is a tragedy, one billion rests is a statistic.

: : : The UK has invested wisely, and not in Tunisia. : : : The pound is still the strongest unit of currency in the world. : : $1.80 to : : : the £1.00. : : : We are but 4 states to your 50. Just rubbing it in. : : : : Nothing to rub in. : : I was echoing something someone said to me. : : : : Our country founded on the basis of the common man has : : allowed the elites to take over based upon what they learned from : : their UK : : counterparts. Be proud of that while inflation eats away at your : slave : : wages. Fool! : : : Our country founded on the basis of the clbutt system allowed the : elites : : to take over based on the Norman Conquest of 1066. Britain amde a : lot : : of money out of he slave trade, then you let them all go and now : you've : : got ghettos. Idiot! : : Why did you free yours? : They couldn't survive well in a colder climate. What's black and doesn't : work? : Half of London. Only half? You ought to see Washington DC sometime.

Yeah, I have. And Aliquippa PA and Bradford England. Now we have riots in Birmingham, and I don't mean Alabama. The melting pot is coming to the boil, the stew is about to overflow. When Harry Truman said "If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen" all the cooks went to watch TV in the lounge. Now we get rogan josh on pizza instead of fish'n chips or roast beef and yorkshire pud. 1 lb mutton or lamb or goat leg or rib meat 1 teaspoon red chili powder 1-2 teaspoon shonth 1-2 badiyan 3 cloves 1 teaspoon Cumin 1-2 teaspoon cinnamon Pinch of heeng 2 tablespoon yogurt 2 big elaichi (cardamom) 2 small elaichi (cardamom) 3 teaspoon of oil Salt to taste

: : BTW, if you want to get into a flame war, my Anglo-Saxon is better : : than yours, f***ing stupid ****. : : About the best you can manage is 'butthole', 'motherf***er' and : : 'jerk-off'. : : : Nothing sillier than an overproud America other than an overproud : : Brit! : : : Agreed, so why start it? I began with facts, you reverted to flame. : : Your facts smack of opinions. : Of course. It is my opinion that black people were captured by the : English : and sold to Americans who enslaved them, my opinion that Americans : displaced its aboriginal peoples, dissolutioning any that resisted, my : opinion that Andrew Jackson was a mbutt liquidateer who defied John : Marshall, : my opinion that the USA consumes a great percentage of the worlds : fossil fuels than any other Nation, and my opinion that our forefathers : and : we are responsible for the impending disaster. Why that should enbreastle : you : to switch from friendly banter to open hostility by calling me a fool is : matter of your own opinionated point of view, isn't it? I thought the Portuguese were the slave traders? Open hostility by calling you a fool? Okay, you're not a fool, just very thin skinned...

LOL ... I lived in Florida for a while. Have you ever watched a 'gator? Like any good 'gator my bite is far worse than my bark; water off a duck's back is no comparison to eyes peeping just above the surface.

"The Fourth of July never fails to reinspire my patriotism and sense of community with my fellow Americans, even when those fellow Americans are a mob of drunken cretins and teenagers trying to get out of downtown Chicago at 11pm.

I like seeing all the American flags. I do have my complaints about the American government, especially about how intimately the Washington D.C. politicians feel they should be involved in the daily lives of their subjects, I mean, citizens. But the flag isn't just a symbol of the American government. It's a symbol of shared American values -- especially our highest common value: freedom.

The meaning of Old Glory can get mixed up with the rights and wrongs of the perpetually new-and-improved government. The meaning of "Don't Tread on Me" is unmistakable. "

Those "shared American values" were British values when the Mayflower left Plymouth. Old Glory is red, white and blue even if it doesn't have mixed crosses on it. Britain does not have a consbreastutional right to free speech, we have free speech without it and don't EVER let nyone try to stop it or they will be bitten by an Olde English bulldog turned 'gator. We've just celebrated the 200th aniversary of Trafalgar, having kicked the butt of the guy who sold you the swamp called Louisana. I'd back Nelson against the Pittsburgh Pirates anyday, and hope never to need to. Androcles.