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I had understood that all of Christianity was started with Paul, not Christ, but Paul. He did away with these rules of living. I don't know how much of the laws he struck. The...
I question that exception.
Not Paul alone, and besides the post-Roman bath houses all over Europe were rather bad occasionally.
Duh, so the sauna had some pagan ritual elements. That's what kept it clean.
Oh, that one was a South American thing, Christian colonists burning all those "works of the devil" and persecuting anyone found to know anything about them.
Not the only example around but a particularly well-documented one.
No, I mean that the resulting mess might be similar either way. AFAICS the range of likely and possibly results is approximately equal, so ...
Oh, each side is perfectly able to cause a mess by its own, and if they get enough momentum they'll often expand to the other side soon enough anyway.
Sure, but later generations haven't left it there. Hence my earlier example with the Raskolniks. They certainly...
Yes, I do consider the violent antireligiousness that various kinds of extremist political movements have exhibited to be just another subtype of religion-based zealotry.
Well, duh, yes. There are Christians with similar agendas too. But it is by no means even required that the aggressively militant (not a tautology in this context IMHO) ideology be religious in nature, for that to happen. Political agenda will do just fine.
I think such wouldn't have been all that difficult to find in certain parts of the world at various times in the last hundred years or so.
And you did of course remember that ethnicity works just as well as religious or political leaning in that thing, if needed.
Either devotees, or career bureaucrats, and the occasional ambitious person from the lower end of the society who tries to climb up that way.
My childhood was Reformed with a Dutch Reformed umbrella. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, in the Liturgy...
Unless world domination would be contrary to the church's goals (which may or may not be what they say they are). Such churches have existed, even in this particular situation, and a similar mentality is not impossible to find in religions other than Christianity either.
Effectively, they did. Native Roman mobs, I should specify. The ones that only wanted to have "panem et circensces".
Yes, that was a result of the above.
What they kept were some of the religious offices, but not much more.
Well, there were a couple of invasions eventually, but they weren't anything like as significant as they're usually made to be. Besides they happened so much later that
It doesn't matter how they were different. You can't really change something if you don't have something to change to. Or course. That's how...
I meant that the "golden days of Islam" seemed to have the Muslims gradually drifting to those jobs too. Certainly they weren't replaced overnight, or even in a decade or two, but my books don't show much of a sustained general policy in that direction in the longer term. (Egypt is a special case anyway.)
But I have only general level books that cover this and not very well at that. I may well be wrong.
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