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Well, you've done a pretty good job of translating for yourself in what I've snipped below: I think I get the gist of it now, namely that the developers of tomorrow, and even ordinary end-users when they hit a glitch of some sort, are going to need to get beyond the "black box" model of the computer, and hiding the inner workings behind a GUI doesn't help with that.

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Well, yes -- that's why it's important to put a label of some sort on the container (and slip a label inside, too). It's also, of course, why open data formats are important. I don't want to be a business or government holding enormous archives in the sooper-secret proprietary Office file formats when Microsoft goes belly up and takes all their source code with them to the great bit bucket in the sky.

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It's certainly one very useful tool for that.

That's just one use of a rat.

It's also good at doing tasks that are appropriately modeled as physical manipulation. Examples:

- adjusting slider controls, especially ones that elicit a real-time response (e.g. a graphical equalizer for audio playback).

- sorting (visually represented) objects into piles

- moving furniture around a room

- playing with the front-panel switches of an emulated PDP-10 (though admittedly real switches are way faster!)

- drawing and painting (though a tablet is usually preferable to a mouse for these)

In short, pointing devices are good for interacting with information that can be displayed and manipulated visually on a display that provides instantaneous feedback. Some people work better in a visual style of interaction than others do, but it's a very efficient way of working for many people for many tasks. They are also appropriate for making marks on "paper" that in the real world leave you reaching for a pencil rather than a typewriter.

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of I've But only because you graciously spent the time making me rewrite my rewrites :-). Yes. I'm even claiming that there won't...

In other words, although I furiously agree with many of the points you made, in the end I'm still sticking to my theme of horses for courses.

I also have to add, as a parting shot, that if your experience of the rat has been confined to using it under various flavors of Microsoft Windows, I can well understand where your low estimation of its utility comes from.

Oddly, when I open an mp3 or an ELF file in Emacs I learn nothing.

Perhaps I need to give vi a try; if that fails, I suppose it's not too late to learn TECO.

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slide-sorting until I was just Ewwww-ing at the way people are storing bits. Finding and-or recovering a specific bit collection...

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