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edu again: sortingIt boils down to the math. Trade schools often do lots more advanced math than some liberal arts colleges. Math is seeping in there now; though. History and political sciences hes learned from economists about the need to quantify. Biology used to be a sanctuary for the math-challenged; but that changed tremendously 1993-2003. In a decade biology went from a "touch&feel" taxonometric science to a deeply mathematically modelled one.They are still reeling from the change. edu again 3933 Eugene Miya It is true that education is a bureaucracy like other insbreastutions in US and 1st world society, and it perpetuates itself. I think that we should not specifically dump... The tide has turned completely on that one over here. No, management cannot ever be totally out of the way. They have to set a direction, possibly at the advice from below. They have to take corrective action where needed. Only when people work according to plan can they sit back and carefully observe. They will probably need to do a lot of protecting of the organisation itself; if they are lucky this is almost invisible to the people inside it. Things like corporate culture must be carefully created. In 1985 the US still had the leading colleges and almost all the leadign universites. All kinds of hard engineering diciplines. People who would like to go to MIT, but settles for a fourth of the price for jsut as rigorous a curriculum. The good engineers left in the US in 2020 will be a very well-paid and choosy lot. They may even start private practices. But they may still not be popular with the in-crowd; there is an inferiority complex looming on both sides. edu again 3934 I noted: I should note the way to tell if people are Feynman groupies when you ask them or they ask you about his books is if they read Surely, What, Character, etc. You ask... -- mrr
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