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It boils down to Values.

We think less of consequence except in the short term these days.

It is true that I got through college w-o buying a calculator (in that transition generation where slide rules were still used, but I had a calculator for a work-study job (The Sigma-key is a great key, I wonder when they will put them on ASCII keyboards?). Math is largely a tool for other fields. You have to have solid ideas behind it. I can say 299,000 + 1,000 = 300,000 is most fields, but I can't buttert that in physics if I include KM-S as units.

In the magazine Science there was a somewhat offensive statement by a sociologist some years back about social science use of math and computers.

I had to buy a calculator finally years later then I decided to take a clbutt in photogrammetry. Got an HP-41C (now dead). But what I learned helps me critique MS Terraserver and Google Earth (the world is a tougher place for the 1-D linguistic AI types).

Only bio at lower levels (love). I sat in a CS PhD defense on s-w for biologists yesterday. Separate from molecular bio (a branch of physics really, they have their own bio problems, and this complicates CS working with them) bio tends to have more complexity that most CS toy problems. At least at schools like Stanford and UC Berkeley, they have not only heavily math based but also chemistry and other bases (where the complexity comes in).

And this is independent of notorious US faith-based programs which kick in next year.

In this part of the US, the arts struggle and argue for funding as well.

This was supposed to be 17th or 1600s (prior post noted, this is a typo I occasionally make with time intervals).

Oh yes, severals years back from I was in Scotland, the local paper had education problems in all Europe and Norway was part of the examples given. So every one has this problem.

There are managers (maintenance of the course) and there are leaders.

I think as what we call Motherhood statements this is true, but for Taylor and the founders of PARC the concept of a plan was loose. Open source coding doesn't see much planning. You can over plan something to rest. Then you get IBM, the organization Lynn worked for.

If you know exactly how to make a corporate culture, there are big jobs waiting for you. Tne you push me more toward Barb and say no management. But that's just her generalization.

The metric for science at a college in the US is the number of Nobel Laureates your campus has. In engineering it's NAE members. Neither is a good metric. But if you forms lots of firms and bring in billion$ like Stanford, I think people take notice.

Hennessy has shown that it takes only $1 billion to placate the arts and humanities depts., and he has brought in orders of magnitude more across time. But I think this is an exceptional case.

Having visited MIT a number of times and now having friends on the faculty I suspect that India would still have a hard time competing. MIT is kind of what you might call a weird place. Education outside the US is still a bit rigid.

It's going to depend on what you want. I know this will change, its a matter of time. I can see it in the eyes of students of the school I visit.

C.P. Snow, Two Cultures.

I think individual private practice is and will be even rarer. Technological and legal complexities make this the likely future. There will be the rare exceptions.

There maybe insistences of Holy water, blessings, Kosher, etc.

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