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Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) writes: Do freestanding debuggers even exist anymore? My ancient Lattice MS-DOS compiler will, at the drop of a command...
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In some cases, the amount of disk space has been more than just "a little", proportionally. But I do agree with you ... Of course, sometimes...
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:41:27 -0500, Charles Shannon Hendrix I'm not a Python geek, but...
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TECO! Ah .... Well, probably most people in this group remember the bit about TECO in the long-ago Datamation article "Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal", but for the benefit of...
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Probably not according to your definition of Real OS -- this was with some version of Unix (not sure about version, but this was about...
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No, I'm saying that we could put a gal to work doing extensive edits with just a little bit of...
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In other words, with the in-person-from-a-human equivalent of "spend half an hour with the tutorial and take notes"? "The page"? Probably something I'm not getting here. Not...
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snip Got it. Thanks. snip Well, my point was that I didn't understand what you meant by "think in characters", nothing...
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That is the one thing that annoys me most about the non-TECO-based, non-36-bit Emacsen. On the original, the HELP character is ^, and ^H is a cursor-motion command like ^B. I...
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The problem I had was that I started thinking about the video TECOs that drew everything in core. In these cases, the N and S search were almost functionally identical. Oh...
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snip I was thinking of editing text in general rather than just code, so "copyediting" means correcting grammar-spelling-usage-etc. Possibly irrelevant. We can rule out that possibility -- this was definitely a text...
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When I worked in Tape Prep we did that kind of editing, too. A file is...
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snip Or something like that. I'd call it a new story, somewhat encapsulating the old story, with a moral about how opinions based on zero, or close...
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I can't tell you. I'd have to "see" the whole file. Diags were a real PITA to edit because each code page was almost identical except for the entry point routine name and, maybe...
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Interesting. Okay. It seems to me that with a screen-oriented editor you could still be sort...
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alt.folklore.computers Plus the time it's Xoff-ed, at 9600 the VT100 needs flow control. Max data rate without flow control in...
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At the time I had it long, there may not have been loveual reclbuttifications, but there were certainly social ramifications. And prior to my moving to the computer industry...
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The hippie era was done in the very early 70s. Anything after that was the wannabes. Of course. Nope. It was the threat of females making their own decisions, including not getting married...
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Finally they adopted a carrot to go with the stick, and gave me an 11-73 to edit and buttemble on. All to myself. I'll agree...
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:28:19 +0000 in alt.folklore.computers, Elliott systems, so maybe the DH...
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11-M was Dave Cutler's answer to 11-D running away with memory. It was superficially similar on the outside. Inside, the I-O and the dispatcher were totally different...
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Barb left one command off the 3x5, the C command to move by one character at a time. All...
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Brian Inglis (snip) Here is the program I used (with some output formatting deleted), written...
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On 25 Jan 2005 15:19:11 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, Then try decoding Minsky's Turing machine simulator for education. As Barb pointed...
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There were two flavours of screen oriented editing in DEC Teco - VTEDIT and split screen mode "m,7:w$$" creates a scrolling region m lines...
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snip stories ... Perhaps you can, but I've never seen one instance of a programmer breaking code because spaces (rather than TABs) made it unreadable. Actually, I want them to spend their time thinking about code...
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:11:41 GMT, Brian Inglis Worse than that actually. An accumulation of errors: Programmer A brings...
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jmfbahciv) writes: I was waiting for someone to mention that. Still, one ought to be able to indent three or four levels and...
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Where did the 8-column tab come from? 8 column tabs are not a secretarial or publishing standard. The norm for written text seems to...
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A good question, and appropriate meat for this forum. In my typing clbutt we were taught to use a 5-column indent. Go figure. Whether this is where tabs originated could be...
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blmblm) writes: I view a command-line tool's learning curve as starting off at a higher...
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cms had a scale-up problem with command lookup that way. the original interface for commands...
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CTSS had a table of commands in A-core. Adding a command required rebuttembly of the supervisor. This was enough of a hbuttle that several extra commands were defined, named CTEST1...
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pale Sure there is. We did on the -10 from the time I was a newbie. If the command is not in the...
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Perhaps our differences are due to our concept of "presently constructed". My whole life has been taking...
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No, not really. I have been missing the COMND% interface style for years now; and I am contemplating building a shell for it; in the stunned realization...
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I agree which is why I'm so puzzled. But didn't anybody realize this before now? This was so obvious to me and...
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snip why do I feel like the only one here to do the snipping snip The consistency problem is much smaller these days. There are only three major UI's left, Windows, Mac and X; each...
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and That is how standards evolve. Extensions should not break old code but do not have to support the old code. This is one...
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He didn't say "monitor code". Remember, Barb, the Tops-20 monitor has almost no command code built in: SUBTTL Mini-EXEC -- Command Dispatch ;MINI-EXEC... EXECT1: PBIN ;GET USER INPUT CAIN T1,.CHCRT ;FLUSH CR...
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He said shell. Which is an equivalent to the -20's exec. Memory Debt Management of the -20 side was one of its performance problems. I understood why the command...
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The Palm uses a stylus, which you might think is rat-like as it can be used for...
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I don't believe that anyone has ever proposed that "straight" data entry is one of the tasks that is more efficiently done with a mouse. Still, varying the physical tasks...
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Charlie Gibbs Exactly. Furthermore, one of the great arts is designing things so that the user can progress from "beginners mode" to "advanced mode" without having to unlearn and relearn. Sometime one see...
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Roland Hutchinson) writes: I hadn't really thought about it that way, but you have a good point. On the other hand, I do like being able to use shift-tab and arrow keys to move...
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Yes, spouses, particularly preternaturally gifted ones, are useful for that kind of thing! (I've been fortunate enough to have had some...
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that Wonderful! :-) by number But it all starts as data entry. I think I'm trying...
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Well, you've done a pretty good job of translating for yourself in what I've snipped below: I think I get the gist of it now, namely that...
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of I've But only because you graciously spent the time making me rewrite my rewrites :-). Yes...
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Well, you don't HAVE to work that way. If you prefer to use the Windows or KDE paradigm of "everything (except for some peculiar reason your desktop) is a web page that...
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slide-sorting until I was just Ewwww-ing at the way people are storing bits. Finding and...
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:21:11 +0000, jmfbahciv Jobs tried that, with his NeXT. The original concept was that the computer had no permanent storage; every user carried around their...
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nonono. I mean the compleat system context is hauled around. People keep buttuming that the user will plug in to similar hardware systems. I intend to mean the exact opposite. When I say...
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Tom Linden running! than (the put move) I doubt that they forgot them, in all likelihood it was a concious decision. Hardware that ran *that* quick back then *and* used 64bit...
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the It's not offensive yet ;-). First, your conclusion that putting in backwards compatible support two CPU architectures ago was "forgotten...
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I guess my main critcism would have to be that they had the wrong design goals. Had I been running the group and they came to me with the choice you described I...
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keith easier instructions to I don't think INTEL made the same trade-off at all, they had a far better process and about 2 orders of magnitude more transistors to burn for...
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