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Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1466
David Wagner ... snip ... None (well, very few) of us ever stopped after a circuit didn't work or a program...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1467
David Wagner Of course not. We have all been wrong before. But you should examine our credentials before weighing our opinions. Around here you will find us right more often than wrong. Wrong...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1468
Joe Peschel I don't know. I think I do understand the fallacy. Of course, you are welcome to...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1469
Okay. No, the appeal to authority fallacy has little to do with quoting a legitimate authority. If the authority cited is recognized as one, there is generally no logical...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1470
Joe Peschel Well, that's not too far off. See below. Nope, that part is not right. I am saying that appeals to authority...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1471
No, it works with anything where someone has stated an opinion or posited something as a fact. Yes, which is *one* reason...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1472
true; something current I'm trying to say that the people who made these facts probably can't tell you. We made design decisions on the fly often, mostly because a...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1473
I'll try some examples perhaps. Hard for me to write some of this stuff because it...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1474
Fields can work in "guild&craft" mode for millennia, and then migrate to "taxonomic&descriptive", and at last transfer to "physics&math" mode. These changes are abrupt. The field of...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1475
Why do you buttume we haven't tried? There were all kinds of methods we implemented to do exactly this with the side goal of production. Most of the methods dealt with...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1476
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:35:27 +0000 (UTC) in alt.folklore.computers, Imagine if all doctors stayed in universities, never dealt with patients, collected no information on what practices were tried by pracbreastioners, and worked or...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1477
CBFalconer Ok, fair enough, though that was orthogonal to the point I wanted to get at. When we say that such-and-such methodology reduces the prevalence of bugs, we...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1478
CBFalconer I find it rather amusing that you mention this example. The rule of seven was first studied and developed in the psychology community, not...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1479
old fogies all the monolythic I know I started writing modular code because I couldn't keep track of the logical flow in my own monolithic code. At...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1480
Amen, brother! How many times a week does a conversation with my boss begin, "Remember that program you wrote three weeks ago to frob the...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1481
fOn 21 Mar 2005 10:09:22 -0800 in alt.folklore.computers, Lawrence Not a bad thing either; you may even progress to writing the comments before the code; code then becomes an implementation detail...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1482
You keep using this word "science". That is where the falicy lies, this is not "science" we are talking about. Which is a TOOL that will be used by the craftsman (artisan, artist...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1483
David Wagner ... snip ... Sixty plus years ago I learned not to take a healthy swing at a...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1484
There's no need for quotes (placed incorrectly I might add), although I appreciate that you happen to think my explanation was something less than an explanation. Irrelevant to the point you...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1485
Joe Peschel Yes, irrelevant. Here's my re-phrasing: Are you suggesting that we should just trust you when you...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1486
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:07:14 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, "Hank As Brooks and others have been trying to point out for decades...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1487
What irritates me is exactly the opposite: referring to the World Wide Waste as "the Internet", as if other...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1488
Here in alt.folklore.computers, Not really. End of Line characters are often handled automagically when one transfers a file between systems (say via FTP in "text" mode) or sometimes even by...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1489
I Richard Steiner Or, more frequently, the differences are not handled automatically (or the automatic handling...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1490
Sorry, I should have made it clearer that I was referring to bodies rather than headers. So the standards end up making ludicrous compromises such as the following (from section...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1491
The HTTP specification shouldn't attempt to restrict the format of the content-body. The content-body is arbitrary...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1492
OK. Here's a "is this true?" sort of history question. I'd read somewhere that the use of CR followed by LF...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1493
The ASR33 needed two character time for cr. No garbage, perhaps a smudged char when the returning head hit the paper, or it might snag and tear. That sort of thing happened on the...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1494
early and process circuits character, but any could because entirely CR to because the and especially in feel to ROTFLMAO. I have never heard...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1495
It is the global wireless communications system that now has cells in most other places on earth than in the...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1496
On Wed, 04 May 2005 20:00:04 GMT, Morten Reistad ... long snip ... ... more snips ... I'm not sure I can agree there. I have little or no more problems using a GSM phone in...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1497
I don't wqnt to get into long techical arguments here1, but a single audio sinewave2 injected into a SSB transmitter produces a single RF frequency identical in very respect with one produced by an RF...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1498
Within a few minutes and not on weekends...so far. I haven't checked. One of the facts of my life is that I'm doomed to always live in a radio reception sink...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1499
In my case, the **** (pronounced the same as the stuff that was clogging your commode in an earlier thread) was radio frequency interference produced by the oscillator in the switching power...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1500
Brian Inglis snip When transforming to PDF, the PostScript code is executed and the result translated into PDF-compatible display lists. For example, loops are unrolled, only the followed branch of a conditional is kept...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1501
I am sure every non-word user has had the same experience. It happened to me, when I received an offer letter from a...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1502
Hm, no, I think some of these tools can also output in MS Office formats. I'm pretty sure I tried an experiment a while back, in which a Word...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1503
Yipes. I'm not sure I encountered this behavior in the long-ago year I spent using...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1504
Exactly. The default printer driver. Switch the default to the other one of your printers and ... Well, I always configured Windows...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1505
I guess it's possible. My limited experience suggests that a particular version of MS Word will do okay with...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1506
the original was GML (generalize markup language) invented in '68 plus 1 at the science center ... the letters G, M, and L actually stand for the...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1507
some open source topic drift. in the '60s you found lots of software being distributed for free, in many cases along with the source. federal...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1508
snip I would actually be surprised if the conversion from MS Office format to OpenOffice format made changes to content (meaning the words-text in...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1509
snip Not what I was talking about at all. This is more what I would call "emergence of a 'best practice'". I think I confused the issue by saying "a...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1510
to It is. See below. Now think about how those static things became static. Their beginnings were based on common methods. These methods became common because...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1511
Careful how you say this. Maybe there's a definition of "de facto standard" that includes both the methods-methodologies you're talking about and also the kinds of things I had in mind, but I...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1512
Okay, now I understand what you were trying to say, I think. I also think BAH has said she wasn't much interested in scientific inquiry. She was talking experience. We...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1513
The two of you may have just uncovered why we're having this discussion-argument-disagreement. I...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1514
Many people put this "sleeping on it" phenomenom down to the workings of the subconscious mind. At any rate, most of...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1515
Bill Leary I'm not talking about how you arrived at the solution. I don't care (for the purposes of this discussion) how you discovered...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1516
truly do Because it worked. Yes. Because it worked. Not all the time. I can remember times when JMF would finally figure...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1517
In the process of developing a solution I generally develop the proof that the solution is correct. If I can't prove it's correct, all I can say is that it APPEARS to fix X...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1518
This is why the buttociation between a cop and science stands out. A cop has to work on three levels at once; prevention...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1519
Joe Peschel Let me put it this way. The gurus were able to explain why...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1520
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:53:25 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, Bryan Companies are run by accountants, lawyers, marketers. Companies nowadays sell their brand, not their products; and consumers only care globalization. Companies see...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1521
They were w.r.t. to mindset. WWII undid that. Sure. The thing I was marveling about was how people...

Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1522
I'm talking about any production. Nope. Prototype. But it's this "eventually" that Japan interrupts with their...



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