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First | Previous | Next | Last Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1523 Of course, the college graduate might be just as bad.) There's something to that - one of the major reasons why we ended up with govt-funded businesses... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1524 David Wagner GIVE AN ANECDOTE. That's a bit more in the political arena. The "bit gods... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1525 fOn Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:15:06 -0000 in alt.folklore.computers, Joe ISTM that's it's tough to convince managers and project leaders how much kids don't know about building usable... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1526 Tech guys are like that. It was originally, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." George Bernard Shaw said it. I'd... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1527 Let's say you play a little touch football on weekend with your kids. Does that mean a professional... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1528 Bit Gods may be irrelevant to science, but conversely science is irrelevant to Bit Gods. The LSG at DEC was not in the business of producing science... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1529 I'm cutting stuff because it's getting cumbersome. And I'm not of necessity talking about documentation. It... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1530 different I've never been sure how to respond to "so?" in any context. It usually indicates that the other person has no idea whatsoever what my objection... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1531 YES!!! My apologies. I'm still trying to learn how write as well as you guys do. Sure. But those comments will only mean something to a maintainer of the code... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1532 On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 02:56:55 +0000 (UTC), David Wagner Forget all that. I recall a while... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1533 Trevor L. Jackson, III One of the reasons for that is economy of notation. Mathematic is rife with... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1534 Paul Rubin It's been Scheme for the introductory clbutt since time immemorial (i.e., a few years after... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1535 Tom Linden I understand the appeal of something like this, but I'm not convinced this is the best way to go about it. Your idea could work well for an... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1536 On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 03:44:25 +0000 (UTC), David Wagner I was thinking of upper clbuttes... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1537 I saw a web page by a well-respected professor today (not one of the ones participating in this forum, AFAIK), on which he had a programming buttignment, in which he was... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1538 Ok, as there have been a lot of responses, I've tried to collect them all in one place. Interesting how much attention four lines of code can receive. According... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1539 Interesting. I tried the test code from your web page to see how it liked various configurations... the results weren't quite what I expected. Notice that the order of the tests by speed is different... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1540 Randy Howard Hmmm! So what do you know about that ... the P4 can actually do 16-bit accesses will reasonably performance! Still beat by my Athlon at a lower clock... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1541 Agreed. That's why I mentioned it above. I think most (if not all) of the notebook vendors play games with the... String hashing Michael Amling Yes. :) Yes. :) Sorry for posting this in sci.crypt, but my hash function is specifically *NOT* recommended for any kind of signature... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1543 Randy Howard Yeah but rather than forcing all the other hashes to notice '-0' termination, I chose instead to force this hash function to obey... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1544 difference. The other way just seemed easier to describe for others and was potentially less invasive to what CBF posted. I didn't... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard Tim Peters ... Randy Howard I don't know what metric(s) you're using, so "stellar" doesn't mean anything to me here. ... OK, to be tedious, it's "quite fast... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1546 Tim Peters Uhh ... right, but both Bob Jenkins and my hash are two hash functions which very clearly outperform it. Oh great -- you know Bob Jenkin's hash has been used a... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard snip ... I just downloaded your test program, and I see various difficulties. First, it is sadly (and... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1548 CBFalconer This is not comp.lang.c. The dead ANSI committee dogma has no audience here. (Or well it does... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1549 First, int it supposed to be "fast" on a given architecture, so I can see why the... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1550 Tim Peters ... I wouldn't know, since I haven't used either of those. I don't claim that it's not true. I've been on the... String hashing was: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1551 Tim Peters But if you've never seen the Bob Jenkin's hash before, or the other functions he... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1552 Oh, a useless game. I am jumping in, I cannot resist. -- "I" is a poor name for a variable... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1553 On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 02:35:33 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, Randy That fact is recognized in the established professions... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1554 I think you missed some of the bigger fish, as other responses should have made clear. It was an buttignment to learn about hashing, which is used in performance critical code quite... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1555 not to mention plain text in various languages other than English. And another that uses the lowercase o for the number 0, and one that used lowercase L for the number 1, and then... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1556 I remember that one - I saw it on a lot of calendars when I was a child. Remember typewriters that didn't have a separate '1'? The convention was to use a lower-case... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1557 Is this better 1 hoist: proc(n); 0000 HOIST: C07C 0000 .entry 52 52 F7 0006 cvtlw r2,r2 56 52... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1558 Perhaps some have taken a more generic path, but I thought the question was fairly specific: Will a C compiler (with or without optimizer... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1559 On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:05:23 GMT, Brian Inglis Not according to the C standard, although it may work on some implementations -- probably... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1560 Charlie Gibbs As a matter of style, there is no clearly "right" way to position the braces. The important thing is to pick one style and use it consistently... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1561 Randy Howard That's one of the differences between C and PL-I. C library functions... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1562 with kind report very surprising, Correct. AFAICT the most effective approach has been to do the following: * Formal proofs (ie: that maths stuff that hackers don't... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1563 many situation where they are playing catchup is because security hasn't been built into the infrastructure... Secure design 1564 at the time, mostly kernel stuff in buttembler. but i may have been somewhat atypical. There was some... Secure design 1565 Anne & Lynn Wheeler ... snip ... I had a system which buttigned code blocks in segments, and the segment count could not exceed 127 (usually... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1566 Different mindsets. Crypto prople tend to regard the channel used as a neat pipe; a well ordered, but insecure, pipe between Alice and Bob, so to speak.The challenge is to acheive secure communications... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1567 however, there has been a lot written about a lot of the Multics being deployed in various (gov) environments where it... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1568 there were several cambridge science center reports and a couple of SJR technical reports. then there is my marathon session at SEAS that i've recently referenced. clock, resource management, etc... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1569 that is the story about problems with later shipping SMP support. up until that time, they were charging for... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1570 How profound. :-) The idea that anyone could send you an email, with executable content inside has got to be one... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1571 Windows Server 2003 is the fastest, most reliable, most secure Windows server operating system ever... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1572 The nice thing about industry standard I-O interfaces is that there are lots of choices for the consumers. The bad thing about... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1573 I thought the idea was to hire new grads before their minds had been polluted by real-world experience... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1574 jmfbahciv) writes: Unfortunately, it's not their $10 billion that's been lost. It's no skin off Bill's nose how much time and effort the rest of us have to waste... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1575 On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 02:25:31 +0000 (UTC) in alt.folklore.computers, AFAICS these are just some of... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1576 Brian Inglis As far as I can tell, they are mostly guessing. They can't point... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1577 David Wagner No, that's because mainly they produced systems for different target environments. Some of them have been equally challenging. Buffer overruns, among many other vulnerabilities, are automatically prevented if you produce code... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1578 Douglas A. Gwyn I agree that correctness is not a new requirement. And there is plenty... Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard 1579 Douglas A. Gwyn Yes. And not just "some study"; there have been multiple studies done, and they are all fairly consistent (even across multiple development philosophies... |
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