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What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2038
Eric Chomko It strikes me that you have a very narrow definition of success. Alpha made money hand over fist, DEC's dissolution had very little to do with Alpha's success or "failure". Neither the...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2039
Kelli Halliburton WHOA there... Pentium Pro *DID NOT* have MMX at all. MMX was a quick graft onto the late rev Pentium (aka "586") cores, too...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2040
And Alpha. MS funded the software development on the Alpha. NT was going to replace DOS. Why be picky w.r.t. CPU architecture? Sigh! VMS was...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2041
I am sure others will disagree, but I don't think any of this was decided on the merit of the...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2042
You have a very exalted view of the overall importance of DEC as it was when you worked there to society at large, and in...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2043
No, I don't. I understand very well how the exposure kiddies got to DEC computing in the 60s and 70s lead to this...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2045
That should read "decent living by first world standards". The thing that offshore labor is again forcing Americans to do...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2046
I did not say it was a bad thing. I said Congress splitting up the business into illogical sectors is very bad. Especially when the maintenance of the most important part of the...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2047
Mikko Nahkola When I started at Tandem in 1981, they were selling systems with from two to 16 custom 16-bit...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2048
And how do you think those few SOBs get enough control so that they can get rich? Liberals tend to spout socialism which emphasizes equality...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2049
Give it a rest. The "people's consent" is never required- all you have to do is get the votes. And you do that by pandering whenever...
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Morten Reistad Thankyou for that page Kim. I completely sucked at Finnish, but after 3 days it was making...
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Rupert Pigott If you're serious about learning the language, you might want to check out this site: "Radio Peili" is a talk radio network operated by Finnish Broadcasting Company - the...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2052
Hmm, you are perhaps counting demonstration chips rather than production chips? Or, the "first 64-bit, 1 GHz" designation? papers on 1 GHz Alpha, PPC...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2053
You're being outrageously disingenuous -- DEC was a computer company, they made and sold computers and stuff to go...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2054
What I was saying is that all the microprocessors DEC made between the LSI-11 (actually 5 or 6 chips) and the Alpha belonged only to DEC for use in their...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2055
Eric Chomko Really... I guess the Pyramid MIS multicpu supermini's (kind of like todays multiprocessor server) didn't exploit Unix. Nope. No dual Universe AT&T BSD...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2056
Eric Chomko BSD wasn't free until the x86 days... 386BSD was the first really free version you could boot. It was somewhere around July 1992 IIRC. Before that the Net2...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2057
Bill Pechter (pechter-at-gmail-dot-com) Open enough to spawn a whole clone market...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2058
The SWTPC 6800 was just as reliable as a PDP-11. I know that's saying something, but there it is. Altair, as well as...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2059
Eric Chomko I would be interested to see how my SWTPC's are still in production compared to -11s. Therefore it's not a fully qualified system... Duh...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2060
Production or in use? What PDPs are being "produced"? I'm sure many are still in use...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2061
A systems programmer had to know about both. Once upon a time computer science meant one knew the basics of queues, deadlocks, filesystems, LRL grammers, memory management, parsers, symbol tables, resource...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2062
Jack Peachicken Freaking morons 8-) No one in tech support understands serial comm (async or non-async) any...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2063
pechter-at-gmail-dot-com (Bill Pechter) writes: And that's DE-9, not DB-9, right? Nobody knows what the second letter stands for anymore, either. I feel your pain - I do a lot...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2064
It won't be long before this won't do, as PCs are starting to drop the serial ports. I found out just how bad things were...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2065
cp67 shipped source code maintenance. the 6-23-68 plus 1 unbundling accouncement started charging-licensing application software ... however kernel software was still free (under the theory it was required for the hardware). mainstream batch systems...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2066
6-23-68 plus 1 was the unbundling announcement ... and start of charging for application software. kernel-system software was still "free" under the theory that it was required for the operation of the hardware. my...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2067
I remember taking a DCL clbutt back in the late 80s, early 90s. Did DEC teach Unix, too? The only DEC system I ever...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2068
Andrew Swallow VAXes were used to control all kinds of stuff, and they certainly did talk to different makes of printer. were...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2069
i had the unfortunate delusion of attempting something similar in the mid-80s; it was becoming more & more apparent that distributed computing was going to take over the environment. we previously...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2070
Delusion? :-( Do you still have it? Yea. That was a pesky problem and I don't think we (DEC) knew enough about it. Would IBM have had...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2071
ref: part of it was that the valley was the hot bed of all sort of activities ... some topic drift: and the...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2072
That was the f***ing problem!!!! Sorry. In addition, another problem was those that were caused by the decision of which grandfather sources one used. I am not kidding...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2073
SNIP Instead of looking at plans A & B, there is always plan C. Don't hack up someone else's code, roll your own, but keep the API & userland UNIX compatable. That has...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2074
You make what I see as a Good Thing, and one of the greatest acheivements of the Open Source and...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2075
OEM .. original equipment manufacture ... however it was also sometimes used as in OEM ... other equipment manufacture with somewhat similar sense as PCM...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2076
Eric Chomko The PDP11 line through the J11 was open. OEM's could and did buy the 11-73, 11-53 etc and use them. The T11 and F11 were also used. The problem is...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2077
Here's another... One of the questions that comes up all the time is: How enthusiastic is our support for UNIX? Unix was written on our machines and for our machines many years ago. Today, much...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2078
IBM and DEC equally funded MIT Project Athena for $25m each ... it had stuff like X and Kerberos (kerberos widely used authentication infrastructure ... even windows) My...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2079
This information is not hard to come by. Why speculate when a simple search would tell you? The original X Windows was developed by Robert Scheifler from the MIT...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2080
kerberos started with userid-pbuttword authentication as an infrastructure function ... and then handed out tokens...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2081
Learn to read, Eric. I have no idea what you mean by "computer people" (computer users? computer professionals?). What I meant was "most...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2082
Sorry, that wasn't clear. If that's what you meant I'll retract my retort. I think that's likely, yes. I think more than half the people living in China and India...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2083
Yes, nothing personal, more at the reverence of IBM in the industry by many. Interesting metric to actually check out if possible. MS...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2084
Michael Wojcik Backus' claim is that allowing the definition of new higher-order functions ("functional forms") makes the...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2085
That's not the same thing, and it is *a* saying, but Eric's free to promulgate a saying of his own, surely? Just because "nobody ever got fired..." is...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2086
Eric Chomko SNIP Showed that we didn't need IBM for what ? We didn't need IBM to design and produce unreliable ill-thought, poor performing, hard to install I-O busses ? Not entirely true in the...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2087
I'm going to dig out Mueller's book on PC maintenance... If it were far better, then PCI would never have survived, thrived and then conquered. Are you going...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2088
says... I wrote this up yesterday, but for some reason it apparently got lost in the aether. If two versions show...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2089
It actually requires "IO" to update the access time. man 2 stat ... The field statime is...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2090
Hm. Seems that I was reading the wrong system's manpages again. The other one didn't...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2091
When I did the FreeBSD VM mgmt algorithms (upgraded from the original MACH stuff), I made sure that even a low memory system...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2092
As a software person, I don't care what happens between the START and the COMPLETE, as long as I...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2093
I understand what you are saying, at least in terms of it not mattering for writing correct code. However, often the details of instruction end matter quite a lot. The...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2094
Of course. I think one become a bit god when one can figure out when to bother with the finer details and when to ignore them. I never could and this is...
What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS 2095
Sure I could. "Little" was vague, but not as vague as, say, "Some". And "The rest" is completely accurate...
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