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the new math: old battle of the lovees was: PDP1 3607
Sounds just like my high school-undergrad experience (except that I only had one real lab...
the new math: old battle of the lovees was: PDP1 3608
Bill Bradley LOGO was always an enlightened alternative to the at-the-time- predominant form of "computer" instruction for kids or for anyone else. Back...
the new math: old battle of the lovees was: PDP1 3609
Be careful. People who favor "higher" to basic tend to ignore the obvious because base instincts are...
old battle of the lovees was: PDP1 3610
I'd take it with quite a bit more than a shaker of salt, because it doesn't match with my experience - either my own...
old battle of the lovees was: PDP1 3611
Cant get a reference on the jailing thing, but are said to “want to import the doctrine of human progress into...
PDP1 3612
Actually back in 1963 it wasn't LLNL, it was LLL. George was hoping to be there, but he fell ill Sat. I saw him in the hospital the...
PDP1 3613
I wonder in this similar way as well. But notice that this is more than Tom Wolfe's single...
PDP1 3614
It's not really a good parallel because none of those polities allowed their "kids" to play, especially the grown...
PDP1 3615
Oh, actually it's a better case than most people realize. The West is coasting on it. "All of us knew we were looking at something important, but I'm amazed...
PDP1 3616
Not back then. Now the West is doing what they did...restricting knowledge distribution. Why do...
PDP1 3617
Security through obscurity has existed for a long time. The Cold War response to do intellectualy stuff because of Sputnik was a new way of waging war (NSF...
PDP1 3618
Now consider the existence of an enemy whose goal is to do all internals 100% destruction. Survival is a non-goal; not dying has almost...
history was: PDP1
On 24 May 2006 10:29:15 -0700 in alt.folklore.computers, I am certain that every engineer here has a case where "If the compebreastion knew this...
PDP1 3620
Well other, but especially Bob Taylor and those at the Hist. of Personal Workstations Conf. cite Credit Debt in LINC -- start of luggable computers and I am amused that Lynn has...
PDP1 3621
Why legal action? It was the standard. I can remember the miracle when users on a PDP-10 could say buttIGN DSK...
DEC DOS was: PDP1
No, it was not the standard. IBM "WAS" the STANDARD. Don't forget that IBM was the MS of its day. Still is...
DEC DOS was: PDP1 3623
Sigh! Exactly. So was was a newly installed PDP-10 site supposed to do? Buy a card reader-punch (they did). The kiddies immediately discovered the way around using cards. Sheesh! All IBM source...
DEC DOS was: PDP1 3624
CR: Late 70s was when I learned about it from DEC's for X3J3 rep.: Leslie. I learned that in the course of working...
DEC DOS was: PDP1 3625
Eugene Miya Actually on the IBM 360-370 ... OSes , the Fortran system units were chosen-buttigned when the Fortran library was being generated, customized, installed for a given installation. Unit...
PDP1 3626
Wonder who that was? I buttume it wasn't me. :-) At 54, I'm at least close to qualifying as an "old guy...
TSO and more was: PDP1
I never really fully used TSO. I did use the SPF (and liked what it did), but... I used to think that way. I bought into the whole Harlan Mills software engineering...
TSO and more was: PDP1
the original was FULIST, BROWSE, and IOS3270 package done for CMS by Theo Alkema. A REXX version for XEDIT environment was then...
other cpcms history
re: Names love'ed to protect the guilty ............ To: Lynn Wheeler Yeah, you should!!!!! Some facts about SPM. Original version was written by...
PDP1 3630
not TSO ... but cp67-cms :-) approx. 1974, cern presented a report at SHARE comparing CMS and TSO. internally, the report got clbuttified "IBM CONFIDENTIAL RESTRICTED" (available on a need...
PDP1 3631
in late 68, university started a project to clone an ibm mainframe controller ... reverse engineering the mainframe channel interface and building a...
PDP1 3632
re: from keykos history, here is account of Tymshare offering vm370 based timesharing starting in the early 70s from above: About that time Tymshare...
PDP1 3633
re: the first week in june '68, ibm hosted a one week clbutt in hollywood ... clbuttes were at the ibm...
PDP1 3634
re: some more history of ncss and time-sharing ... from above privates wrote the file...
PDP1 3635
tss-360 was the original "designated" operating system for the 360-67. it was never very succesful...
PDP1 3636
a lot of the batch stuff was dataprocessing w-o having a human to control it ..... besides running payroll and various other operations, many of these platforms for used for various other kinds of controlled...
PDP1 3637
re: oh and a large part of internal corporate computing was cp67-cms and then vm370-cms based ... even development for some of the more familiar batch, non-conversational systems; and of course...
PDP1 3638
early history of CTSS and some split with project going to Multics on 5th floor 545tech sq ... and others going to science center on 4th floor 545tech sq Melinda history...
Seeking Info about TTY 3639
OK. *That* rings a bell. I remember some terminal I used which did this same thing. In fact, I remember that the first thing I did when I noticed the odd print out...
Seeking Info about TTY 3640
This column Ah, thanks for adding the "Integral Data Systems" part. Yes, I recall these now. I had one myself for a short time...
Seeking Info about TTY 3641
I found a box of 32 year old Teletype (model 33) printouts that was still yellow. (I wish I could've kept them but space was at a...
Ampro 80186 2210 anyone
I still have my 1985 Ampro 2210 (basically an LB186 with a 10MB HD and a 5" floppy). It still...
The very first text editor 3643
Not saying it's the first, but I have a copy of the June 1968 plus 1 "The Computer...
The very first text editor 3644
Eugene Miya Does it have to involve a computer? Certainly paper-tape editing (and store-forward concepts) predate programmable digital computers and go back to...
The very first text editor 3645
On 30 May 2006 10:50:42 -0700 in alt.folklore.computers, "Tim Shoppa" Expensive Typewriter seems to have...
The very first text editor 3646
wrote, in part: I would tend to interpret his question so as to be as much according to...
The very first text editor 3647
I don't know about today's biz. Based on the poo I have that seems to...
The very first text editor 3648
You might try googling for "teco users guide dec-11-uteca" PDP-11 Teco User's Guide Chapters 3-5...
The very first text editor 3649
snip You might also try, if you haven't already, the other major player in the long-running Unix Editor Wars, namely vi (or one of its clones-successors). I'm...
The very first text editor 3650
oh, I didn't think I could leave the room. :-) I think it's downright stupid if you want to do anything useful. I...
The very first text editor 3651
Reread what I wrote within the context of a person who is editing professional (as in key puncher or secretary). If I had to an emergency, the real work accomplished is reduced...
The very first text editor 3652
This might be a fairly significant point .... Many of us (well, true of me anyway) are probably speaking from the point of view of...
The very first text editor 3653
Since I have been, at different times, a developer (of code), an author (of text), and an editor both of code and of text, I have to say that I...
The very first text editor 3654
Not might. Yes. No. What is generally good for efficiency can be used (or rather not-used) by the coders. Coders are abominably slow; anything that can speed up their data entry increases...
The very first text editor 3655
snip snip *Someone making changes marked up by someone else*. Okay. So, not someone who is thinking, during the editing process, about what changes to make? only about how to...
The very first text editor 3656
from long ago and far away ... Lynn, After seeing some of the RED-XEDIT dialogue between you and lovelove, I thought I would express my point of view...
The very first text editor 3657
well IBM 026 and 029, Spring 1968 plus 1. Coursewriter III on a 360-50 at the University of Texas, Fall 1968 plus 1, followed by Cooursewriter...
The very first text editor 3658
E is a special case, truly sui generis. WAITS, the SAIL OS, is a *VERY* heavily modified 4-series monitor. One of the modifications is the replacement of...
The very first text editor 3659
Ah. Got it. Maybe this is a case of "compared to what?" -- compared to doing things with multiple...
The very first text editor 3660
Umm. Check the TLD in my signature. :-( Striking against the government can work... sometimes... but it sure better be over something...
The very first text editor 3661
I'm not sure mentioning the Editor Wars is quite the same thing as expressing a desire to fight one. IMO...
The very first text editor 3662
snip Ah. Again, "95% chance of working" isn't my experience, but whatever. There *are* some...
The very first text editor 3663
Roland Hutchinson) writes: I get sick just thinking about it. But to go back far enough...
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