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Has college changed so much that freshmen years no longer consist of the prerequisites for their majors? There isn't usually much choice in which clbuttes one takes at that level. Everybody has to get all the basics done with so they have the basic knowledge required for specialized clbuttes for their majors and minor.

Right. So why waste that slot on perverted fluff?

It is a seminar; a semester-long seminar. All students only have x hours during the week available clbutt time. All students only have y hours during each week available for studying the material given at that clbutt time. Now do a time management-useful knowledge presented.

Yes, it is the same question. It's just not a popular question in discussions whose intent is to "prove" that women are oppressed.

It happens to be more objective which negates the hidden agendas of those who want to dumb down the general population.

Good for her. You should watch her a little bit, not preach at her. She is trying to do a most difficult task by herself and won't get any help. IOW, she is committing a sin because she is not allowing these people to "help" her.

And she is trying to tell you that she is not interested in fluff. I suspect that she has an itch that can only be scratched by producing something useful.

It is possible. However, this was not the poster's intent. He clarified his position in another post. The problem is that I'm expressing a viewpoint that is not socially acceptable these days. I am a social pariah and this must be fixed immediately.

It doesn't cause me to ask why? It's about the same ratio in the real sciences and a little lower than math. All of this work takes a certain kind of thinking style. Could it possibly be because more men get wired to think in this style than women? If you want more women in your CS degree programs, then have them build a house or do farm work when they are 3-17 years old.

It has to do with being able to taking a problem, studying it, and producing a solution that is based on physical laws. It takes concentration and focus on the task without wasting time on politics or anything else that will detract from the time spent and the solution.

If you work in any group that is mostly female, thinking only about a single task is not done. Nobody works for weeks and months on one, and only one, task. Men can do this. A minority of women can do this. Those women who have this thinking ability, find out very early in life from other women that this is bad manners. In reality, this thinking is perceived as a threat to the other females.

The problem that these disapproving females want to solve is to "socialize" these females who are different. Do we "solve" this problem by forcing our best thinkers into a socialization that they find abhorrent? Or should we teach them what they need to learn in order to make stuff and be productive when they grow up and get real jobs? I vote for the latter. I hate wasting the time of people who can think well.

If it's the same everywhere, could it possibly be that this is a natural ratio? To do anything to "fix what ain't broke" will destroy any innovation that would have been done?

People who have a compelling interest in computers don't care about fitting in. It is not number 1 of their priorities. Freshmen have no concept about what "co-workers" mean. They haven't done any real work. The reason they are going to college is to learn enough so that they can get out and do real work.

But there are enough people. What you are implying here is that there is a drop in the population of CS graduates. We are talking about freshmen.

You are more concerned with status than with conveying knowledge here. If there are that many kids who think that computer usage is an anti-social activity, then why are most of them using computers, comms, and other high-tech gear?

Having a clbutt like this at the freshman level is the equivalent of snickering and pointing at the weirdos.

He is a freshman. Most freshman clbuttes are not optional. They are required for those clbuttes that are optional. All schooling has n clbutt slots-person. It is impossible for a person to attend two clbuttes at the same time. This is no longer high school. Each clbutt costs money. I would spend my money on clbuttes that would give me the most knowledgeclbutt hour that will help me learn how to do the work I want to do.

It is not you, the teachers, who are going to recruit new bodies by emphasizing that the subject is asocial. The way you get more kids to study the material is to present the material, not some social worker's buttessment of the lack of socialization of people who like to do that work. The way to get more kids interested over the four years of any college kid is word of mouth. This means that you cannot count the freshman noses divided by pants conten and interpolate the work force 10 years from now. Kids who yap over a beer or whatever talk about their clbuttes and the work and the material they learn and, most importantly, their interpolations of that material. They will talk about this stuff with people who aren't in the same program. People change majors all the time.

If it's replaced by other soft stuff, I would also object. What is worse about this is that the breastle of the clbutt will turn off the very people the PCitoids claim they are trying to help.

Not might. It will make things worse. Anybody with scintilla of common sense should see this; it can't be possible that this outcome doesn't have an obvious bad outcome.

BAH