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winscape 2197Oh my, profanity. Not something I equate with logical argument. In any case, at least some people obviously believe otherwise. You need some tie-breaker like statistics -- paylevel by gender. Freshmen aren't crap? :) More seriously, getting a course approved is not an easy business in most schools. More than one professor had to agree it is not crap. Of course, that does not make it any less so! "Eat sh!t. 40 billion flies can't be wrong" winscape 2198 snip I think the decline is real, or at least it's the common perception among CS educators. It sure doesn't seem to be changing in the direction of more women, at least in... No, I'm asking questions to avoid making buttumptions. That could also be parsed as (3) These are good points, but also depend on the course material. It might be sensitivity-diversity training in disguise. Lessons on groupthink. I think you could have a very interesting discussion with your nephew and his prof on the subject. You might even make a guest industry lecture. You talking with your nephew. Perhaps this would be a better way of picking politicians? Our society is based on free choice of profession. While this is consistant with freedom, it does have downsides. Some people choose professions for inappropirate reasons. Perverse incentives. Because freshmen still have some brains and won't swallow BS, while MBAs think it is strong and promotes growth :) I'm sorry. It's not my intention to upset you. But the feelings are there, and are better out than in. -- Robert
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