Is the Mac a PC 2579

Not all of them. Itanium systems don't use BIOS but they're clones.

Not at all but Apple adopted the technology none the less. Maybe you haven't been listening or reading. I said the CPU makes a clone, not just the other components. I cited those components because we can see Apple was slowly becoming a clone. I said that Apple would one day be a clone maker and I'm right.

BTW. Did Apple always use EFI? I guess that the old Apple computers that used BIOS are PC clones right? Or maybe they aren't Macs any more, they're just something out in limbo because they use EFI now. Hmmmm seems your agument is going up in smoke.

Look EFI is firmware, BIOS is firmware. They have the same basic function, they are an interface between the hardware and software. You know what CMOS is? I won't even go into that.

A clone is defind as a compuer that uses x86 processors.

That's just fine with me.

But they do have firmware and that's what a BIOS is, firmware. EFI is just another open firmware. It provides more instructions than other firmwares. But it still performs the same basic functions as a BIOS. It interfaces the hardware and software. It doesn't matter if it can format HDs or bake cookies.

Get over it, Macs are clones. Notice how you and Mitch, are the only ones keeping this crazy notions that Macs aren't clones now. Mitch doesn't know too much about computers. I think you know more than he does. So you shouldn't make yourself look the fool by trying to lie and say Macs aren't clones. Apple says they're clones.

John

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