Is the Mac a PC 2589

Ok I read it wrong. But it still remains that EFI machines can be clones as long as they are x86 personal computers.

I suppose this is all I can ask for. You acknowledge that Macs are clones. But you still have EFI on the brain. EFI on a personal computer has no bearing on if it is a clone or not. Clones are based on x86 personal computers. That's what we're talking about. EFI has instructions and is totally different than BIOS however it still has the same functions in adition to BIOS functions.

There have been Itanium systems that used something different than a BIOS but if it was used as a personal conmputer, that would make it a clone. I should also add that servers, that aren't designed to be personal compuers, are not clones.

It's is still uesed but not as much and not for the reasons you cite. The term is used because the computers run x86 and use similar architecture like PCI, AGP and DDR memory. It also includes the older hardware like ISA slots and old memory slots. The term was "PC clone" or just plain "clone". Now it those words were changed to just PC. We all knew what what it meant before Apple switched to Intel. We called all personal computers that used x86 CPUs PCs. That means clones.

You can try and spin it any way you want. Apple is a clone maker now, they even say so. Maybe you should just accept it.

John

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