Sandman's Website Debate: Update 1 443

Since Snit ran like a little girl from the other thread, he had to create a new antagonizing thread:

This never happened. You made uninformed claims, totally devoid of any form of suggestion or advice - since, well, you suck at web design. You're the kind of person that can say that a painting doesn't look like a cow, but you couldn't possibly paint a cow to save your life.

Actually, you claimed I had followed some alleged suggestions you've made, but haven't been able to reference these supposed suggestions.

Obfuscation. Later I looked it up. No decision was involved.

Michael has no support that it was ever there.

Post the screenshot of the source code of csma.sandman.net that shows that they were there.

I'm on vacation at lots of customers loose their sites. It was anything but "well-timed".

Nothing can be gone that wasn't there in the first place, Michael. It's like saying "This monday, Michaels honesty was gone!".

Because no other site links to it.

Google only caches sites it has indexed, Michael.

Actually, this is the conclusion:

Snit Objective Troll Criteria Summary ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Obfuscation 2 X Antagonizing threads 3 Ignoring evidence 4 Antagonizing through other media 5 Quote-scavanging 6 Thread hijacking 7 Projection 8 X Unsubstantiated accusations 9 Unsubstantiated "refutations" 10 Forging posts and material 11 Insults 12 Role Reversal 13 X Lying 14 Having an agenda 15 Diversion ----------------------------------------------------------------------

2. Antagonizing threads ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember, a troll needs attention to his trolling, so whenever he is in a lengthy thread arguing only with this one poster, the troll is likely to break out of that thread and start another thread that will be one way to evade the first thread and also draw more attention from more people. An example of this is this thread 1 where Michael creates a completely new thread which is totally off topic and an off-spring of a length discussion he's had with Steve and Elizabot.

8. Unsubstantiated accusations ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A troll needs to accuse people of all sort of things, and since substantiating accusations is time consuming, the troll is likely to accuse people without substantiation. This is of course closely related to obfuscation, since most of the time when the troll actually does offer substantiation, it's based on the trolls own obfuscation.

13. Lying ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Obfuscating is the act of twisting words and meanings around so they mean something else than what they were intended for. Lying is making false statements. Both are untrue, but they differ in end.

A troll often has no option other than to lie in order to further his agenda. Especially when he's lost all arguments.

A good example of this is when Edwin quoted Sandman saying something 1, using quotation marks. Problem was, that this wasn't something Sandman had ever said. Or when Michael listed five outright lies about Sandman 2.

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