Some virus education for edwin 56

I don't think ANY of your trolling accomplishes anything, including your above trolling.

I.e. I proved that you were a liar and a troll. Nothing new - I've been doing that for years.

Do you think anyone ever reads your pack of lies?

Michael Objective Troll Criteria Summary ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 X Obfuscation 2 Antagonizing threads 3 Ignoring evidence 4 Antagonizing through other media 5 Quote-scavanging 6 Thread hijacking 7 Projection 8 X Unsubstantiated accusations 9 Unsubstantiated "refutations" 10 Forging posts and material 11 Insults 12 Role Reversal 13 X Lying 14 X Having an agenda 15 Diversion ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Obfuscation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a trolls main weapon. Most trolls are not very good debaters or have very good or compelling arguments, so it's of outmost importance that they are well versed in obfuscation instead. This is mainly noticeable when their "opponents" say something that has even the slightest chance to be misinterpreted. So even if this misinterpretation is the most far fetched on can think of, it's naturally the only valid way it could possibly be interpreted according to the troll. A fine example of this is in one of Steve Carrolls posts which was a reply to CSMAModerator (a periodic poster that posts quotes that point out the number of people that has said unfavorable things about Michael Glbutter. Steve Carroll posted this reply 1 to the original post and quite clearly only quoted one quote and stated that he was the author of that quote. It is noteworthy that he directs his comment to Snit, which is due to the fact that somehow Snit wants to claim that Steve is the one who is posting as CSMAModerator and Steve just plays the same card back.

Snit, being a troll, responds 2 by interpreting Steves reply as an admittance that he is not the author of the quote he quoted, he is the author of the entire post that was posted under the name CSMAModerator. You can't get much far fetched than that.

8. Unsubstantiated accusations ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A troll needs to accuse people of all sort of things, and since substantiating accusations is time consuming, the troll is likely to accuse people without substantiation. This is of course closely related to obfuscation, since most of the time when the troll actually does offer substantiation, it's based on the trolls own obfuscation.

13. Lying ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Obfuscating is the act of twisting words and meanings around so they mean something else than what they were intended for. Lying is making false statements. Both are untrue, but they differ in end.

A troll often has no option other than to lie in order to further his agenda. Especially when he's lost all arguments.

A good example of this is when Edwin quoted Sandman saying something 1, using quotation marks. Problem was, that this wasn't something Sandman had ever said. Or when Michael listed five outright lies about Sandman 2.

14. Having an agenda ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A troll always have an agenda, a goal or a motive. Something that drives the troll. This is very apparent when the troll hijacks threads 1 or when he is creating antagonizing threads 2.

Without the agenda, the troll has no purpose. The Agenda is not static, however, and evolves along the way when the troll finds new objective, enemies or issues to incorporate into the Agenda.

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