What does this say about users 2629
Why? So you can play your usual game of denial? Perhaps you need a reminder of what people you interface with online think about you. From a recent Quotes thread:
******************************************************************* Snit: "I do not believe in consensus reality. I believe in facts."
Snit: "It is easy: you are claiming that your view of group consensus equals reality when it comes to a view you believe (but cannot support), but you run from group consensus when that consensus is extremely powerful."
Fact is most csma posters have noticed that Snit is different. Many cola posters have noticed too. Here is what over *80* different posters have to say about him.
----- NEW CSMAMODERATOR'S FAVORITES! -----
Dave Fritzinger: "Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!! "
Edwin: "This Snit Circus has been closed by order of the Board of Mental Health."
Josh McKee: "Snit, I buttume there was some point to this posting? Because I certainly cannot find it."
sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice. Honestly, even the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront made more sense than this. You been doing drugs or something?"
Snit "I eat dog poo to get attention"
Steve Carroll: "By the way, have you seen any of Snit's web pages or any of his artwork? You know how they say 'those that can't do, teach'? Well, his stuff is the *only* evidence I've ever seen that might actually convince me Snit is a "teacher";) "
--------- (DIS)HONORABLE MENTIONS ---------
Alan Baker: "Why aren't you in my killfile again? Oh well... ..easily fixed."
Edwin: "How dare you whine after forging a quote from me, yet again? Isn't it bad enough that you're a reprehensible liar without you being a sniveling whiner on top of it?"
Greycloud: "Snit sure whines and moans a lot. Doesn't his meds work right for him?"
What does this say about users 33HumfHSaKlA~jG9gd* 2633
KenS wrote (in article Expect that to increase now with products like Parallels and Boot Camp. There is literally no reason...
Sandman: "You are treated badly because you are a troll. You are treated badly by pretty much the entire group ins spit of you being a Mac user. Can't say I've read all the threads you've posted, but I'd say any bad treatment you get for badmouthing Apple vanishes in comparisons with all the badmouthing you've received for being a vile troll hated by pretty much everyone in the group."
Sandman: "Incorrect. You're branded a troll because you troll, regardless of your computer of choice. Just look at Snit - he's the most hated person in the history of csma. That's since csma was created. Since the beginning. The most hated. And he is a Mac advocate. Go figure."
STravis: "Is this really Snit or is someone forging him? He really seems like he has gone off the deep end...."
Steve Mackay: "If you get Snit to panic, he'll do one of the following...
A.) Lie B.) Create identical posts. C.) Create posts with your name in the breastle. D.) Create a new sockpuppet(this is always amusing). E.) Mangle and snip relevant quotes. F.) Compare you to Steve Carrol. G.) Compare you to Sandman. H.) Attempt to forge documents(and poorly I might add). I.) obfuscate J.) Claim you have no support.
And the list could go on. But I'm already bored with him for one day." ------------------------------------------------------------
----------- CSMAMODERATOR'S ALL TIME FAVORITES! -----------
1- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I wish you'd leave too.
Please note that despite the amazing silliness that is Edwin, I have never made the same wish of him."
2- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the truth, you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting the newsgroup."
troll. Otherwise, maybe.
Dunno why I had my KF on you set to expire, but it's fixed now."
4- Bob S: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group, but since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a decent discussion about anything.
The solution is to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some people just can't stop feeding him."
5- ˇbˇ unny: "snit makes me sad."
6- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill..."
What does this say about users 2632
So which delusion of yours am I supposed to believe this time? That you have a few free minutes (that's a damn funny one, by the way;) or That you...
7- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him "poo", and rightly so, for they way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the bus depot, and simply refused to die, despite repeated flushes.
It's now far too late to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk* him..."
8- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility.
Maybe it's time for you to learn how to use your kill-filter. I am buttuming, of course, that your Usenet browser has a kill-filter."
9- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for you to "win" an argument? They don't like you, you don't like them. Why must you keep this up? What results are you expecting?"
10- Dawg Tail: "You've already apologized for having already misread what I had previously written. What makes you think that you're correctly understanding what I'm writting now. You've got a history of reading into things what you wanted people to have said instead of what they really said. I suggest you get over this limitation of yours. It's making you look foolish."
Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost all of them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have so many diverse people who share a common perception where do you think the problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The answer doesn't require an advanced degree to figure out."
11- Dave Fritzinger: "Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!! "
12- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar and loser you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me where i stop responding to your posts for stretches at a time, then start up responding as if you were a normal person. i suppose it's tough for the magnitude of your 'loserdom' to stick, so it loses some of it's sharpness when i stop responding to you. you almost always start responding back in a semi normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it's once again that time. i can only ask that you pbutt my condolences to your wife and unborn child for having to put up with such a dishonest fool as yourself. (well, if your wife is a loser as well, just pbutt those condolences to the rug-rat to be; if not, double condolences to her). "
13- Edwin: "The worst troll this NG has ever seen is playing the part of the victim... you can almost hear the violins playing in the background as he whines... hilarious..."
14- Elijah Baley: "If there's ever been a better example of a sociopath than this Snit character I haven't seen one."
What does this say about users 2630
I gave an extremely relevant response... you *will* deny any evidence that puts you in a bad light... you *will* play some disingenuous game of bullpoo and obfuscation. That's...
15- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to the points in my post and you are back to your repebreastious regurgitation mode. How childishly typical of you, Snit. "
16- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been coming to CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among people, besides the typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I feel that it is like being in a room of really young children trying there best to best the other person. The one common thing among all of this seems to be you. I hate to be like this, but facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a great percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and more about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no end then all this picking at each other on such a personal level. CSMA has always been al little adversarial but you have personally crank it up to the point that this place is no longer fun. Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making this place your own personal circus."
17- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit (AKA Michael Glbutter), this should not be done. He will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!"
18- Greycloud: "I'm beginning to see what you people mean. Are we sure he's a school teacher?? After all, school has started, so where does he get the time to blow? "
19- Henry Flam: "Better still, Snit why don't you just disappear, please. It will make the newsgroup a place worth visiting. Now it's a Snit Circus. You're much worse than the Wintrolls."
20- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*"
21- Jamie Hart (cola): "I was very deliberate in my choice of words, so far in our exchange, you have claimed to say something you didn't, accused me of deliberately removing context and accused me of calling you names.
You don't have a very good record so far, and I don't have the time to put up with your posting style, so this is the last you will hear from me."
22- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people on usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and refresh your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over and over. Either you're a super troll, or you're a super mess."
23- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of poo."
24- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git."
25- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a 12-step recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't help me achieve a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from it and those kinds of discussions have no place in a newsgroup such as this."
26- Jim Lee Jr.: "Troll."
27- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in seems like it turns into some breast-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things and garbage?"
28- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away, rather than actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for the course I suppose."
29- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to fall - in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight, yelling at pbuttersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'"
30- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What are you unpleasant womaning about?"
31- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice- more like a black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even entertain an unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and lock it up? Please??"
32- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's postings since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to filter his posts, I just consider the source and skip to the next one when I see his name."
33- John Slade: "Snit is full of poo and knows little about computers. However I don't think anyone should leave based on how stupid they are. Everyone has a right to say whatever they want. If Snit wants to display his ignorance and lack of knowledge, he should have that right."
34- Josh McKee: "Snit, I buttume there was some point to this posting? Because I certainly cannot find it."
35- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother reading the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding gobbets of putrid excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how to support your position, instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming, hoping it'll all go away."
36- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad hominem attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad hominem attacks.You make silly claims and then avoid the subject of your silliness. You're a liar and a hypocrite and you always have been."
37- Lars Trger: "Yes, you are stupid."
38- Lefty Bigfoot: "I am once again amazed at how quickly the mindless parrots inside the RDF will change direction. You are a caricature of the typical Apple zealot."
39- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've been an annoying little f***wit lately. You started out with the pretense of trying to be fair, but lately all there is from you in COLA is trashtalk about Linux and you acting every bit the troll."
40- Linnut (cola): "Snit is a Tholenoid."
41- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most cretinous, I would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)"
42- Mark Kent (cola): "Snit is an uber-troll of the worst order... Snit's as likely to admit error as E.Funkenbusch. If he really teaches (which I strongly doubt), it must be awful to be taught by someone who cannot accept when they're wrong, this being one of the fundamental methods for learning..."
43- Mayor of R'lyeh: "Here's a hint. Whenever Snit is involved double check everything. He's a major jackbutt and loves to do things like this."
44- Mike: "The evidence is overwhelming, and self-explanatory. You're not smart enough to get someone *already there* to press the floppy eject button - buttuming, of course, that this Carefully Contrived Scenario actually happened. Which we can only buttume that it did not. All we have is your word - hardly compelling."
45- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead I can only say that you are a complete and delusional kook that happens to inhabit CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware of how deranged you actually behave further reinforces this notion. Please seek professional help."
46- mmoore321: "Typical Snit response. Since you could not address that my comment was about your message and not your sig you decided to do some pedantic reply. This is a common tact you employ. Don't address the intent of the message, but try to be "clever". It is a shame it is so transparent."
47- MREDofCourse: "Seriously, spend half a day at any pre-school or kindergarten and see if the kids there can't teach you a thing or two about social behavior."
48- Muahman: "Ummm, dude you post 1000 posts a day. 999 of them are trolls, if anyone here has issues it's not me."
49- Nashton: "This issue was beaten to rest. I cannot imagine why Snit is bringing it up and why anybody would bother to engage in conversation with him on this topic."
50- Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't convinced that snit is a total loser, and I rarely call people losers, I certainly am now. Why bother responding to his stupidities anyway?"
51- news-Andy: "Snit you obviously need to be more precise when you argue with some people, or are you doing it deliberately?"
52- OldCSMAer: "Agreed. I don't see anyone coming in here defending Bush. I guess Snit loves to tilt with windmills. :) "
53- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher: Select offending Author, example Snit... Go to the Filters Menu, Choose "Kill this Author" Click "OK" Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your choice. Then to see your work... Choose the Filter Menu again, Then "Refilter Articles"... Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about nothing. Enjoy!!!!!"
54- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in Newswatcher but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option with Snit. Ten seconds later and he's gone! Amazing."
55- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that they were not different windowing environments? Message-ID, please. Experience has told me not to trust you on anything without backing evidence."
56- Peter Kšhlmann (cola): "Snot is a hideous troll. Nobody is as dishonest as that piece of unadultered garbage. There are csma posters even more stupid than Snot. Oxford comes to mind. There are certainly other csma posters who lie nearly as much. But no others are so intent on trolling in whatever way possible as Snot"
57- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get superficial snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions."
58- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long standing war you have going with some person from csma. It's like you single out persons to target your attentions upon and then continuously berate them with constant barbs and goads to perpetuate their acrimonious responses, which in turn you respond in kind, etc. ad infinitum.
Above all things, your affinity for Macs and your overbearing pompous nature aside, this is what convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting this and other groups is to troll."
59- RichardK: "I have Snit killfiled"
60- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You trash people that are trying their level best to cope with a horrendous situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of what is going on."
61- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a troll. I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as a troll, he is ... somewhat clumsy."
62- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care if you quote Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate perched on the shell of a tortoise, I was merely pointing out that you run the risk of looking ridiculous when you quote something patently stupid. If that's your goal, you're on the right track, and more power to you."
63- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category. Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to generate a flame war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux and how it can help you and your supposed users why aren't you requesting help from a more technical Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group? As the old saying goes, those who can do, those who can't teach. Your posts seem to confirm that saying IMHO."
64- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the -HISTORY- of csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost hated, in a news group before.
He has the ability to turn just about any person against him in just a few posts. On usenet, trolls do this daily, but the funny part with Michael is that I actually think he DOESN'T consider himself be a troll - damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they are wrong.
Only Tholen himself can match this behaviour."
65- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice. Honestly, even the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront made more sense than this. You been doing drugs or something?"
66- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit, you're probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises to remove smut from your harddrive."
67- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem expressing anger, i guess. he has to vent his frustrations in other ways. and he thinks he's making sense: well the syntax is there and he figures he's pretty smart. indeed, he tells us, he's done the personality tests and the iq tests and he's okay! aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well adjusted."
68- Snit "I eat dog poo to get attention"
68 plus 1- Steve Carroll: "The only things we are sure about Snit is that he has: * a monumental reading comprehension problem. * nym-shifted numerous times to avoid kill-files. * built too many straw-men to count... some, the size of small cities. * been labeled a disingenuous liar-troll (or worse) by the vast majority. * used numerous sock-puppets and admitted to it. * stolen IDs and admitted to it. * gotten booted off by ISPs for his behavior. * twisted more context than all csma posters combined. * made more unsupported accusations than all csma posters combined. * virtually no life outside of csma."
What does this say about users 2635
MuahMan Actually, I am employed. Had you read (or understood) my post, you would have picked that up. And - the Dell that I use at work was made in China. So much...
70- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of elephant dung, and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in the "Snit Circus", but then the cotton candy began to sour, and CSMA begun to smell like elephant dung."
71- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit has lost all self respect and has sunk to the point of using words like 'buttes' when referring to others.
Oh, how could the morally superior snit have fallen so low.. Please take a moment out of your busy schedule to feel embarbutted for him. Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get him more happy glue (and the appropriate plastic bags)."
72- Stuart Krivis: "Dude, the way you act sometimes makes me think you like to be f***ed with and encourage others to do so."
73- TheLetterK: "I am not confused by your claim (I understand it, and the fallacious argument that spawned it), but I am indeed frustrated by your refusal to admit mistake. It's really quite simple--you simply have to indicate that you were wrong. No shame would come from it, and the issue would be totally forgotten. However, your instance on proving your own inaccuracy brings the issue to the forefront and continues to degrade the tattered remains of whatever credibility you had going into the argument (which is not much)."
74- Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you see, you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really are. Why just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you, the king of liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a liar."
75- Tim Crowley: "I don't know - I think you might have more compbuttion. Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way the poor sick fool can get attention. My f***ing God, he's taken to hanging out with and supporting racist pig f***ers like MuahMuah. It is true that no-one likes him and those that pretend they do are just using him or don't know him - but come on- it's not his fault. He's sick. Have some compbuttion, eh? All these idiot trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy, MuaaaahMuaaah, and Snit - they are all so alike. I pity each and every one of them"
76- Tim Smith: "No, he didn't, and there is no reasonable way you could actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to troll here."
77- Timberwoof: "*Plonk!*"
78- Tom Bates: "Do you have to turn any thread you post in into one of your Circus acts?"
What does this say about users 2631
Yes, Snit... whatever support is shown you *will* deny it and-or play some kind of bullpoo game. You know...
79- Tommy: "LIAR!!!"
80- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with Snit. Most people have him kill-filed and the few who don't mostly restrict their responses to 'why don't you go away, no one wants you here'.
Just what would keep someone in this group with all of that animosity? Must be some kind of severe mental illness."
81- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty" are nothing more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you wish to define the rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to alter or bend the rules when inevitably things do not go to your liking, for this reason I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to play your game."
82- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my sincere apologies for this, PLONK! Feel proud about that. You're the first person to be plonked from my new computer! :-) "
83- Woofbert: "*Plonk*"
84- zara: "ya know Snit, I am one of your fans. I also admit to being a Troll- why don't you admit to being a Troll also?? That hoilier than thou bullpoo, dosen't flush. "
85- Znu: "I think your 'I'll go start a new thread to try to draw more people into the debate I'm currently having with Steve-Elizabot-etc' tactic is fairly trollish." .-----------------
-- "Heck, OS X is not even partially based on FreeBSD" - Snit "Sandman and Carroll are running around trying to crucify trolls like myself" - Snit