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Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2040
ZnU It kept the tax and spend bureaucrats in check. Now they can just print up...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2041
But they *don't* do that. They borrow money from the private sector or from foreign governments. Which...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2043
snip From someone else. You're basically trying to say it's impossible to lend money at interest with gold-backed currency, but this is *obvious* nonsense. Hell...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2044
ZnU Only because of the Federal Reserve Act that you can loan money and try to back...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2045
First off, it's not true that someone has to go into debt. Wealth merely has to be transfered. If A lends B 10 bars of gold at 10% interest...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2046
ZnU Under this banking system they do. First, when the banking cartel loans money, only...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2047
Holy poo, could you try to be just a little coherent? You said that it was impossible for *gold-backed* currency to be lent at interest without someone going into debt...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2048
snip I have no idea if that's true, but even if it is, it's irrelevant. Maybe farming was a really cushy job in 1900 or...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2049
ZnU My grandfather found that moving west back then was a very profitable move. Settled some land and applied for a loan to build a house and acquire farming equipment. I thought it...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2050
snip Yes, let's compare minimum wages. In 1900, the minimum wage was $0. In 2006, it's $5.15 at the federal level, and higher in 18 states. If we consult our handy historical income table...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2051
ZnU Yes, in 1900, you made what you could... and it was in gold, not paper money. In 1993, I was only getting...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2052
snip So, you're income didn't keep up with inflation. As the above figures show, most people's incomes outpaced inflation by a good margin. The minimum wage hasn't kept up with inflation...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2053
ZnU And my income was supposed to be based on keeping up with inflation and the cost of living... which it didn't...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2054
You're either misremembering what you got paid, or the agency you worked for decided to screw you over. Either way, your personal circumstances are really not relevant to the discussion we're...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2055
ZnU And which bank is that and how do you get it? But 4.65 or even 5% won't take into account the inflated gas prices if you own a car. Don't...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2056
HSBC, and you fill out an application. Once again, gold-backed currency wouldn't help at all with increasing gas prices. I think a serious gas shortage would...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2057
ZnU I'll take a look see. It would have if the Federal Reserve was not in existence. Seeing that both...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2058
Please describe the political manipulation which is causing the price of oil to rise. Make...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2059
ZnU WE have Mr. Bush to thank for that. Everybody that I know of points their finger to him for this ridiculous oil prices that were also tied to his foreign policies. Fiat money can...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2060
ZnU I'm giving you what were facts from the past. If you can not connect the dots, then you never will. And the loans is where the money is created out of thin...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2061
Particularly, the 98$-t column. This column is in inflation-adjusted 1998 dollars. Inflation adjustments...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2062
I see you have no response. Please stop making absurd statements and then ignoring me when I correct them. snip Yes, but in modern first-world economies, one...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2063
ZnU Missed that one. I'd say that the numbers, like statistics, seem to be jimmied up. Look at the current...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2064
Look, you're being absurd here. This data is really basic, simple stuff, coming from objective sources. You can't just dismiss it all out of hand because it doesn't...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2065
ZnU Of course I can dismiss it out of hand. It really depends on where you live and what you do. Some areas of the country are...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2066
Elizabot v2.0.3 It was one of those things that both abhorred. They realized that if...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2067
ed Didn't leave anything out. The COLAs amounted to less than inflation. We only got around 2.5% as compared to the claimed 4% or so. Merit increases were a...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2068
ZnU I think that is what Lincoln was getting at. Our forefathers back then really said to not let the banking system fall...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2069
Sure, desire is what gives anything value. The desire for oil gives oil value, for instance. Nothing has an...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2070
I think there's a very real distinction between things which can actually be used for something (oil, food, a MacBook) and things that people only want because they believe they will be able...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2071
Right, but some things that also fit in the category would be art, love, travel and just about anything that also...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2072
Disagree. Large numbers of people want those things for themselves, not merely as a medium of...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2073
22k is popular in parts of europe- spain and italy mostly, iirc. 23k in thailand. 24k (and...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2074
Only to an idiot would I need to prove that gold is one of the more desirable and preferable metals from...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2075
Says the guy who was just seen claiming silver is more malleable than gold;) Anyway... I didn't move the...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2076
ZnU Of course Gold has a use. The thin wires to attach sections of chips together. Gold can be extruded the finest over any other metal. Now if gold was...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2077
ZnU In the case of gold in chip wiring... it does cost more than its market value per ounce. But the chip makers know that an ounce goes a very...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2078
Gold is looking at a major leap wrt uses in the next decade. This doesn't matter anyway... as I've obviously...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2079
ZnU But it did work until 1972. Now they can print as much as they'd like. The only limiting factor is how much can...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2080
C'mon... glomming on to an offhand comment won't help you. All along, I've clearly said that the value does matter, that's why...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2081
That didn't look like an off-hand comment, it looked like the closest you've come to answering my question.. Paper money also has recognized value. What...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2082
Do you actually read any of the stuff I've pointed you to? No, you dont'. Only...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2083
Snit I just hope that Znu realizes that we're only trying to wade thru all this and to figure it out. I hope he doesn't take offense to playing devils...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2085
LOL! I realize you would argue that 2.5" x 6" pre-printed paper strips bearing the images...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2086
Snit Well, in this case, Znu can't seem to grasp the fact that it is the...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2087
ZnU But those that have already retired *are* losing. They can't keep working forever till they drop. A stable economy that isn't into inflation is what they...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2088
ZnU You'd better tell that to all the financial advisors out there then. It is suggested for people, 5 years in advanced, to...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2089
None of this has any relationship at all to what we were discussing. Let's list the unsupported buttumptions: 1) Inflation is about to take off. 2) Dividends will...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2090
ZnU It is taking off. Where are you? Because interest rates for loans are going up. This will impact the...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2091
ZnU CHICAGO — Wall Street is worried about inflation. So are Amy Lopez of Eureka, Calif.; Sharon Connlley of Duluth, Minn.; and Elmer Hunt Jr. of Boise. They...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2092
ZnU Oh, it will only get worse tho. Inflation is going up due to the cost of oil that is being pbutted on to the consumer...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2093
That's a factor, yes. And it would be exactly the same with gold-backed currency. Unless you started working less, or at...
Why Its Pointless To Argue With Global Warming Believers 2094
ZnU Not sure if that would happen during a pre FRS or not. I've never heard...
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