Why Pentium 510

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:17:15 +0200, Mxsmanic

You are merely posing theory without trying it. The latter becomes necessary before a conclusion. Scientific method.

Nonsense, Intel also had CPUs without it. How about the processor in your laser printer (if you have a decent one, though they all have host processing)? Do you know if it has this protection? How about in all your video cards? You are citing a reason that you ignore for any other part. Although a CPU produces more heat, the kind of cooling system failure that will destroy one is not exclusive to the highest heat CPUs, the others will fail too.

Nonsense. Same could be said of intel's past so-called "decisions" not to have one, or Intel's "decisions" to release a P3 1.13GHz.

You are illogically biased because one failure happened to cost more money than others. I would be upset about it too, but not illogically biased.

You lost certain parts of each machine. If you put over one thousand into the board and CPU for each, you were naive to use the OEM heatsink (same situation with intel).

I still think you are blaming the wrong parts. A CPU overheat will NOT take out any other parts except "maybe" (usually NOT) the motherboard. The odds are overwhelming that you had another problem, and if that problem was melting parts and you feel it could have ended up lighting the system on fire, NO WONDER the fan failed too, AFTER the problem not as the cause.

I would've loved to examine those old systems, I spend more time on failure modes than anything else these days. Dead serious about that, I'm more interested in system reliability than Vista or gaming video cards, etc, etc, etc.

You are either mistaken or lying. An overheated CPU will not destroy the entire machine.

I am now pretty much discounting everything you are writing because it is not reliable information.

What's a SonBook? Google didn't turn up much.

If you bought a system with low quality fans, there is then an immediate decision that needs be made:

- Return the system, unfit for long term use.

- Fit it with quality parts and those parts implementation so it IS fit for the use.

Whatever happened, it seems SonBooks made the fan choice and you didn't know the difference. AMD didn't cause your fault and I still suspect the CPU wasn't even overheating of itself, there was another failure point that cause the problem and end the CPU too (unless you just thew it all out, as you seem to have randomly declared the entire system a loss which would never happen from CPU overheat).

Again I suspect it was the board or PSU that failed.

False conclusion.

Avoid SonBooks, avoid running a system without knowing if it's in good operating order, avoid blaming anyone until you know what actually happened. An overheated CPU will not trash an entire system.

I now wonder if you are a paid endorser for Intel? It just seems TOO SUSPICIOUS, your claims are beyond unbelievable, you are actively buttuming things not in evidence at all.

Do you know what'll happen to a system when a CPU overheats? Practically nothing. CPU dies, end of story. Severe overheating may warp the CPU socket. It doesn't catch anything on fire. The kind of power load that would cause this should trip the PSU, I'd have focused on it first.

If these systems were burnt onto the point where you had a compete loss as you suggested, you cannot buttume the fan failed first rather than during the failure event or even towards the end. It would have been good to just come out with these signficant details in the first place, rather than only your unfounded, biased conclusion which is not believable. Maybe you believe it but I don't accept these details as supportive of your conclusion at all, and it is an entirely separate issue from fans or AMD vs Intel.