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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Mr. Smith

Exactly the same arguments

I can cite books and sources, including from economists, that profer that increasing employment is a legitamate goal of economics.

(b)

Any historical analysis of the development of wealth WILL show that, if not theivery, then at least a great deal of coniving, scheming, and subterfuge were also used, in addition to illegal actions, by those who became rich and I can cite sources.

and

"Confessions of a Union Buster" by Martin Jay Levitt. just one example.

Economists countered that automation led to a higher standard of

Economists never showed, by any proof seen by me or said by someone else or even you, this to be true. There have only been plabreastudes of plausibility.

I can think of examples where this is true, and I can think of examples where this is not true.

Look at how automation has

None of the articles I ever read about how automation was going to do this, by "freeing people from work," and how all the unemployed people were going to get money to pay for all those cheaper goods.

There are also studies, and one is in my scrapbook, showing that the inflation-adusted average wages have actually gone down over the last four decades and the mandated increase in minimum wage has failed to maintain standard of living for a large fraction of our population.

There was a time when presidential

I've seen a lot of people at the store using food coupons. How big is the homeless population? Do you know about soup kitchens?

They don't own it, the bank does.

Even in ancient times (I can cite references) 2,000 to 4,000 years ago, in anciet Greece and Mesopotamia they did have banks, credit, loans, and interest on the loans. It was not unknown that a few kings actually cancelled all Debts for their citizens thus ruining the few rich and making the vast population very happy.

Any glance

Not so according to "The End of Work" by Jeremy Rifkin.

So why is replacing

Simple: a king on an island has ten peasants working for him (they harvest, he pays them). He finds food cheaper on another island and fires one of his peasants (at first); now, that peasant has no income, but the king has not released him from paying rent for his land. That peasant suffers. The king reposesses the land the peasant rents.

How altruistic of you. I'm sure there are many laid off Americans who will wonder why you show altruism towards foreigners (who should be responsible for developing their own economies) instead of your own country and countrymen.

I don't know

I am sick and tired of people who think there is no starving and suffering in the USA.

I wouldn't mind seeing a

I have an idea: how about you go over there and help them out yourself.

I do.

? As Kamal says, it will happen anyway -- it is

Dams stop water from running downhill. Sometimes predictions do not come true.