India following facist model according to Indian author 1734

Straydog

The folks who have been to the US are almost all clear they do not want to go to the US. The folks who haven't gone there yet are probably interested if they can get a good deal. Its about fast cash, a chance to see tall buildings, blondes in bikinis, convertibles and some such thing. f you tel them explictly that they will be captive labour during their stay in the US -many would opt to continue working in India.

Understand -your USD and my Rupee doesn't represent real wealth. Its like your credit card and my credit card. If money represented wealth -there would ne no such thing as inflation and no elected representative could lose an election due to recessions. He could just increase money supply and keep everybody happy. The american public or the US govt has no veto on job creation in India. The consumer of trade-able services aka engg work has a veto on whether he wants those services from India or not. If he wants the services, he can pay for it in any currency -which again buys cars, food, consumables etc.. As long as it gets the service providers employees in India all of these consumables aka real wealth -they are happy no matter which currency they get paid in.

I do.

yeah-wherever christianity-islam spread -it was almost always at the pt of the sword.

you are playing with words.

all of which was reason enough to believe they will support genocides to expand their popularity-power base.

it helped the newcomers to gain influence and create lasting rulepresence there. Converting people is about getting them membership into a club which has its attendent rules and regulations. Its something like which political party you support. The natives were converted or end for refusing so as to support the invaders and not to drive them out.

you seem to be changing the topic. Taxpayers won't finance the growth o private companies in India. If Infosys, wipro etc want more business, they will have to finance the lobbying themselves. f

in other words, one cannot blame the american public for crimes committed by its govt. People get elected, then use their position to earn wealth. The bulk of americans are living off paycheque to paycheque and have no appebreaste for creating more enemies for themselves. Thats the job of lawbreakers turned lawmakers -who don't give a damn either for their own people or for people elsewhere.

so you agree with me on religion being a tool for politicians-medieval kings.

for conventional warfare yes. In guerilla warfare, other things count. The iraqis figured out they don;t have the means to fend off an attack in conventional warfare because it was highly buttymetric So, they opted for guerilla warfare -which is basically to bleed the enemy to rest without engaging the enemy. It looks like they have achieved their purpose and the US should be withdrawing anytime soon. .

fine.

just a school of thought. Even organized religion is just a strategy-philospohy-school of thought.

no the storm troopers living in ghettos were down-trodden or maybe one can call them economically backward with no avenue for development. The dalits are economically backward with v little room for development which is why we have naxalite movements. The govt is trying to get them within the framework of democracy and to spur job creation in backward regions to fend that off.

yeah those beliefs consbreastute a school of thought.

hinduism is based on such rationalizations, many related to astronomy-astrology. Various amounts of rationalization exist in other religions -but once you freeze a rationalization into a religious tradition, it can become dated i.e. irrelevant in another era.

all these holy books contain jottings of various ideas-beliefs -and when you adhere to these ideas , you become a member of a school of thought. Atheism has a limited set of ideas which basically exclude accepting any religion as the final word.

no -to improve political fortunes too. Aurungzeb used genocide to put down hindu uprising. Some other mughal rulers used forcible conversion to gain acceptance in a mostly hindu region. They put them at odds with non-muslims so that they would support the king who converted them or invite a foreign ruler to protect them e.g when the Marathas took control of lahore -the converted lot invited Nadir Shah of persia to protect them from reprissal. Of late, Karl Rove used christianity to trump John Kerry in Ohio by getting church regulars to go out and vote or be banished from church.

its like corruption. People use organized religion as a tool to achieve their means. I wouldn't know about salvation till I achieve it.

yeah they were pagans like us.

umm -you are taking of an intra-faith compebreastion.

yeah -that is forcible conversion which folowed conquest.

yeah -you can look at it that way too.

if you understand what Im saying -that is fine with me.

the buttault on their power came with the renaissance.

it boils down to a school of thought-collection of ideas-beliefs etc..

they might -but it needs to be approved by elected representatives depending on the amt of expenditure involved. WEehave something called Comptroller auditor general who points out to wasteful expenditure by the govt.

Im sure they have lots of blood on their hands like their foreign counterparts.

its a negotiating table where different country reps bargain for something in return for something they can offer. The US gov wants access to the Indian consumer market for finished goods, and the Ind gov wants access to the US consumer + labour market for goods-services. Given that your govt is involved all kinds of criminal acts all over the world and mbutt slavery at home -you can be sure they won't be in a mood for charity. If you tell the Indian worker he is not allowed in the US labour market, that will not be taken well after your companes gain access to the Ind market. So either you go in for free trade or for isolationism-but not something in between, where you can have the cake and the icing too and leave the other guy high and dry.

I hear they bribe heavily. Its an unelected govt whch can hand out anything and everything to your politicians. They actually know how to work with K street and all kinds of criminals better than their Indian counterparts.

Not really. It helps to bring back credibility the overseas customer cares for. The US is something like a marketplace where technocrats from the world over come to provide their services. Just as tehre is no fountain of wealth in the US for the rest of the world to be a parasite on, there is no fountain of human intellect from which lesser mortals from overseas can feed their brains. If anything, the lack of competent manpower in the US allows Indians to make fat salaries without slogging it out as they do back in India.

when talented students join aunvi -they bring value to the table -just like a talented worker joining a company. The univ building in itself doesn't contain human intellect and teaching is collaborative. A clbutt full of dumb native students will go nowhere -but one with talented foreign students will achieve a lot in pushing the envelope. So, its about developing critical mbutt of ideas. Actually, Im not in a position where I can lecture you on this, but just to let you know the foreign students are not a rip off on you.

thats something to do with your cost structure. Most chines exports don't involve engg work.

Its like a bidding table where the stakes ket going higher till one of them went bust.

The voter turnout in India is about 30%. Dalits and poorer sections of society turn out in higher numbers. Educated middle clbutt people do turn out in reasonable nos and the middle clbutt sets the pattern for others to follow. Upwardly mobile people just don't bother with elections. Anyone with a voter's id card can vote without fear and the fact that many politicians lose their seat based on economic performance - means the vote does matter.

he isn;t asking you for an opinion. This is just FYI.

which country is India tryintg to liberate? The govt is trying to make elected representatives of unelected gun tottng represenatives.

its about using ideology like religion to get hold of power. The polish people were roman catholic but in e. europe, so they desecrated the church there and-or mbuttacred people there -so as to veer them off NATO. Then they spread the idea of communism being good so that they could fend off the other guy aka the US.

yeah -its about alliance by using political ideology as a reference point.

nowhere.

the investors get benefit by employing cheaper labour and so do the customers by getting cheaper goods-services in relation to that available in their country. They reward the investor who gets them that and penalize the ones who don't give them good deals. Politicians are like middlemen who just take bribes to provide services reqd by the ones with money to pay.

Slavery is something that can come only with legislation. Corporations cannot create legislation. If rug factories hold off child labour -they pay bribes to govt officials and try to fend off investigative reporters coz there is no legislation to facilitate creating captive labour. The rule which says students will not work off campus, illegals have no right to stay and can be deported, work permit holders cannot do this and that -are all things that came with legislation. On paper, these are just badly written laws -in reality, they are badly written to create captive labour which delivers higher levels of productivity at lower costs to the employer.

they can exploit based on demand-suppy (shortage of jobs) -but creating captive labour with help from legislation enables higher levels of exploitation. FYI slavery enables better exploitation but is not an alias for exploitation.

the contract for employmet is with the employer. The legislation that makes life difficult is from the govt.

employers have finite capacity to exploit based on labour market conditions. Legislation creating captive labour helps them beyond that finite pt.

well -the rules that enable employers to attact them but prevent them from getting civic rights have been created by your govt not by employers. What is holiding back your govt from making it a felony for employers to hire them rather than make it a felony for them to follow thier jobs to the US? If youn don;'t know the answer zI will tell you it is campaign finance and the benefits that slavery brings to people higher up the value chain.

there are. But the US has the largest pool of captive labour at this pt of time and the economic model is such that it wil continue to do so as has been doing for the past 300 yrs. To put an end to slavery, the ameriacan public will have to agree for a lower std of living in line with their productivity i.e in the absence of captive labour doing the dirty job for them, they will have to do the dirty job themselves.

regards -kamal