India following facist model according to Indian author 1735

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Kamal R. Prasad

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How can you write a sentence about the past tense and then say they didn't want to do that?

And, how come there are more foreign people here, now, than ever before? More come than leave. You make no sense when you say this.

The folks who haven't gone there yet are probably

So what?

Its about fast cash, a chance

All comes from our real "fountain of wealth" that you keep saying does not exist.

f you tel them explictly that they will be captive labour during

And, I'm still waiting for you to tell THEM all about that, instead of telling ME about all that.

And, didn't we all agree (everyone I know, knows this) that working for a corporation means you are working for a dictatorship. I'm surprised that you must think otherwise.

You can buy a lot of rice with your Rupee and I can buy a lot of McDonald's hamburger with a few USD.

Its

Nah, the credit card is different. You use a credit card: buy a car for $10,000 and you get the car and you don't have to pay the $10,000 for 30 days. Multiplied by millions of people, and $billions of float money was created out of nothing. Pure magic.

If the amount of money were fixed (eg. gold) and no gold went into manufacture and no new gold were discovered, then maybe there would be no inflation. But, you have just thrown out at least a hundred factors that are present in the world's monetary system.

But, there are lots of other things (maybe an almost infinite number) that are "worth" money.

and no elected

Irrelevant.

He could just

This is why the Fed is not elected position or function and is also supposed to be independent of politicians and has a goal of stabilizing the economy and promoting growth.

The american public or

Fact: USD goes to India and creates jobs in India. You had some 8% annual growth in GDP the last 3+ years. It did not come from India. It came mostly from the USA.

The consumer of

The real buyer of those services is NOT the ultimate consumer but the buyer of those services. eg. Intel, Microsoft, etc.

If he wants the services, he can pay

So, you are saying, here, that the USD is just as good as the Indian Rupee. I'm OK with that.

Yep, you do.

Do you think Ghengis and Kublai Khan went without a sword and what religion followed them? Or, did they send out missionaries ahead of them? (this is the Mongol Empire, not to be confused with your Mohgul Empire which was much much smaller).

No, your words left out the order in which these processes took place. The gold robbery was the major, first project. Not only that, but most missionary work came from the Christian church, not the Spanish-Portugese kings-queens. You should not confuse these facts.

Actually, the Protestants split off from the Catholics and they made war on each other much more than on anyone else, so the genocide was actually self-genocide, and your sentence, above, leaves out that important fact.

As if no other force in the world and no other force in history was interested in expanding its popularity-power base.

Yes.

It was also quite common.

Its

I reject them all.

The natives were

More or less.

No, you asked me something that you can find out for yourself. What do you think I am? Your free teacher? You expect me to dig up an hour of my time and write you a little essay about something you would deny or ignore anyway?

means that the taxpayer really is financing them.

I'm wondering if it is possible for you to talk about crimes by any other powers besides the American govt. You seem to talk about this constantly as if we are the only ones that do anything bad, and I'm waiting to see if you might ever give the USA credit for doing any good. But it looks like you can't see that.

People get elected, then use their position to

It happens very often. Even before the USA existed.

The bulk of americans are living off paycheque to

Don't the bulk of Indians earn just $1-2 USD-day?

Thats the job of lawbreakers turned lawmakers -who don't

And, lawmakers turned lawbreakers, too. Do any Indians who take or give bribes give any more damn about their own people?

Except that many kings did not depend on religion. Just the sword.

Yeah, the Arabs do it in Israel, too. And, in some other places like Cuba in the past. Etc.

It looks like they have achieved their

How about when will that Naxalites and Maoists in 1-4 of India? Do you think the official Indian govt will withdraw anytime soon, too?

Fine.

You said, above, "...every politician wants to use religion..." so I can think of historical exceptions to that.

Down-trodden is like the Dalits (for 3000 years and no hope). The storm troopers just lost the war. Period.

The

More than that, they have been discriminated against for 3,000 years and its their "birth-slavery" without chance for change (except if India govt enforces change).

with v little room for development

I'll wish you luck in that.

And, the religion has to have supernatural components.

You also have 10-12 gods, too.

Various amounts of rationalization exist in other

Oh? Is that why we have Judaeism from 1,000 BC? Christianity from 0 BC? Islam from ~700 AD? And, all the writings. And, still very large followings? Not irrelevant at all. Maybe will always be here. Name a religion that died out.

Now you switch from "school of thought" to holy books. There is no holy book for atheism. No central dogma. No god. No moral statements. No churches. No hymns. No songs. No symbols (eg. the cross). Where is the "school of thought" in atheism? If anything, it is the absence of a school of thought. Some of our historical philosophers were called atheist only because they wrote about god(s) in a way that common people would not accept. At most you can just write some few sentences that atheists might write that add up to questions that no religion can answer. There were many examples in Durant, by the way.

Only a possibility. Communism was not a religion. Only a politico-economic system.

Aurungzeb used genocide to put

That's your problem, not mine.

Some other mughal rulers used forcible conversion

All through the history I've been reading, conquored people sometimes had the choice to convert or die. Sometimes they got no choice. Sometimes they did NOT have to convert, just recognize the new king.

They put them at odds with

I don't like Karl Rove, either. And, was not too impressed with Kerry.

Fine, people use money and power, too. Salvation does not exist, only the bill collector and the tax collector.

Depends on your definition of pagan.

No time to summarize writings about primal societies, but many had no god and barely any acceptances of "spirits" or powers. Compebreastion, as you put it, maybe is in India where the Dalits often become Christians because in Christianity at least Christ taught all people were born equal and some Dalits liked to hear that instead of being totally out of caste. But, maybe that is not compebreastion because Hinduism offered nothing to Dalits, eh?

Yes. Not follwed, though, a requirement to live.

OK, fine.

Fine.

No, it came with the Reformation. The Renaissance was a rise in religion, philosophy, art, music, literature, and thinking, etc. The Reformation started a little later, and included the beginnings of questioning religion.

Fine, more or less.

Fine.

Fine. Just remember that next time you single out the USA and point your finger only at the USA and forget that maybe India has some blood on its hands, too.

Hah.

The whole globalization project is just a very big gift to India and others, and almost for free. In 50 years since you guys became your own country, what did you do without US & western help?

If you tell the Indian worker he is not allowed in

The way it looks is that YOU are already selling to the USA, and we're still waiting for you to open up markets. YOur reform is on the skids. Your Rupee is still not fully convertible, etc.

So either you go in for free trade or

You guys are just getting rich on USD.

Just like India.

Its an unelected govt whch can hand out

Funny, I barely hear about them. And, Bush doesn't visit for long like he did with Singh.

Just the exchange rate. We have plenty of competant manpower.

allows Indians to make fat salaries

Oh, are you not jealous of successful Indians who are still here and enjoying the USA.

All a line of thought that says all of our faculty, born in the USA, were not as smart or knowledgeable (because they are dumb) as the foreign students were smart and knowledgeable before they came, and that is why they came here, right?

So, its

All a free ride. All the technology, science, and engineering developed in the USA, all the expiring patents, all falling into Indian hands out of the sky for nothing. Pure gift. All the diagrams, literature sources, journal papers, patents, books, libraries...all a big free gift to India.

Big article in Business Week last year: Dell does not do eng work on more than a small fraction. They just write specs, and the Chinese, Taiwanese, Koreans, etc., do the work.

All western allied countries got free military support. Japan, Europe, etc.

Pretty poor. How can you call that democracy? It means someone gets into power without even a majority of people wanting it.

Dalits and poorer sections of

How many?

Educated middle clbutt people do

So, the communists could come back. And, Singh has reforms on hold.

I'm not asking you for an opinion on US economics, but you are sure handing it out.

1. Kashmir 2. the Naxlite-Maoist 1-4 of India.

The govt is trying to make

Good luck.

Just like the India lobby-caucus.

The polish

All communism that came into Europe came without a choice. No religion used.

And, military power.

I agree.

Oh, woudn't it be so nice if the USA were poor. Then India would still be like it was 1-2 decades ago.

They reward the investor who gets them that

All due to the exchange rate.

Slavery does not need legislation. Only a gun or sword.

Slavery can only go away with legislation, but must be followed by enforcement.

Corporations

Corporations create "corporate policy" which can evade legislation.

If rug factories hold off child labour -they

Fine, you need to take care of that.

Depends on the fine print.

illegals have no

Why shoudl illegals be rewarded for breaking the law?

work permit holders cannot do this

Why should foreigners get better or same treatment as citizens and for not learning the language, history, laws, and ways?

On paper, these

You left out the most important parts. You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter, for free.

No slavery. They can leave anytime they want.

The employers usually get the legislation they want. The H1B was only a recent development.

That is what I'm saying except that it is exploitation, not captive labor.

No, our govt did not come up with H1B by itself.

What is holiding back your govt from making it a felony for

Sentence does'nt make sense.

If youn don;'t know the answer zI will tell you

Also poorly written.

No, the total number of Dalits in India is 250 million. Almost our whole population.

at this pt

All anti-US statements.

What about Indian slavery?

All part of your dogma.

i.e in the absence of captive labour doing the

We have been over this, too. That "captive labor" likes it here. More come than leave.