India following facist model according to Indian author 1745

Straydog

On paper, they can transfer their visa to another employer. In practice, one has to leave on good terms for the employer not to raise a red flag. The employer has full rights to cancel the visa, order the INS to deport the H1B on 24 hours notice. All rights for the H1B's stay in the country are wholly and solely with the employer. That is what makes for a captive labour force. In order to break free from this, one has to go in for a green card -which requires employer to certify that beneficiary of the green card application has contributed to his business satisfactorily and hence is deserving of a green card. If someone waits for 5 yrs to earn his liberation -he will be off the hook else will remain captive.

No -the enforcement is weak on purpose and all loopholes in law are intentional and not accidental. It takes 1 hr for the INS to round up workers at any major employer of hispanics. Your own statements indicate that the entire food processing industry employs illegals. What exactly is difficult about going to a food processing factory and lining up all workers at 10 am and checking who is or is not legal? The only difficulty I see is the loss of slave labour to the employers and their customers.

They cannot file for green cards while on student visas. They need to be employed to file for a green card and it can only be done by the employer -not by the employee.

The jobs will always pay less -but the students on a visa rather than free labour will accept the jobs because the law constrains them to do so.

I have pointed to facts and to portions of legislation enacted by the US govt.

Im telling you the truth. There are lots of bad things happening in India, not limited to child labour. We are a country where blood flows cheap, and the right to remain silent (5th amenndment) when in police custody does not apply. That doesn't mean there is no slavery in the US or that slavery isn't a msinstay of the US economy.

No -you have others to support your lifestyle, and that others happens to be 12% of your population (your own words above) which is HUGE. It could mean illegals, or educated work permit holders or top notch technocrats hired with lucrative prospects -but without an influx of alien manpower, you just don't stand a chance at sustaining your living std-purchasing power.

Its done by sleight of hand -and the reason why Im talking about it is coz if I don't, lots of prospective H1Bs-F1s etc will fall into the trap.

I was referring to others being able to read the fine print.

which is what I am (the guy who has gone and come back before some H1B-F1 applicants). Im telling them their experience -hope they read this -before they land in the US. Once they land and buy immovable property, their fate is sealed.

so you accept that the US govt accepts money to perpetuate slavery? I thought you are denying its very existence in the USA.

they have no power over the demand-supply curve -yes. But many have the power to look for better oppurtunities or not put up with harbuttment -and those on restricted rights don't have those rights.

No -every american who expects businesses to reward them with jobs in return for hiring foreigners, or who expects a good salary on account of his citizenship-race is a parasite (good-for-nothing). You can find lots of posters claiming this right of theirs on usenet. These are their own words and I do not have to extrapolate on that.

In theory -they can quit and go back. In practice, they cannot after having bought immovable property in the US. Before they get to the US -they can opt not to enter the US and so cannot be considered enslaved. If americans make it explicit to potential visa holders as to what to expect, they will create choice and pre-empt slavery. if they keep mum or encourage them to come to the US, it indicates a desire to profit from slavery.

regards -kamal