India following facist model according to Indian author 1746

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Kamal R. Prasad

Untrue. Former employer cannot block a transfer, but a new company will interview H1B holders!!!

The employer has full rights to cancel the visa, order the

Then tell me why there are so many advertisements looking for people who have H1B visas? The new employer can sponsor. The old employer can't block.

All rights for the H1B's stay

And, the employer can be anyone who wants to employ that H1B.

That is what

Untrue.

In order to break free from this, one

I can tell you for a fact that I had a Chinese woman on a student visa who ended up working for an employer in the capacity of a CS-IT employee. They don't have to go for a green card. She even told me this in followup correspondence after she was on her new job.

-which requires employer to certify that

Irrelevant.

If

Go talk to your lawyer. They can do anything. It just takes time.

All the law provides is mental pressure. It is just common for foreigners to come in legally, and then stay illegally. So, they take their chances to get caught, which is very rare. Our population of foreigners is growing some 1-2 million per year. Of course more come in than get deported.

It takes 1 hr for the INS to round up

Its very rare. A manager at the local chicken plant told me that 90% of their workers are illegal. They dont' get deported. But the employer pays a fine.

Your own statements

Yeah, so what?

See above.

The

It has not happened.

Who needs a green card to work here?

They need to

No, I have been asked, and in some cases, actually helped by writing letters for people who are NOT working for me, to get a green card. You are misinformed.

There are tons of jobs here that pay less than min wage because these jobs fall below the thresholds. Doesn't matter who takes the jobs. I myself have hired people born in the US on jobs that paid less than min wage. Part time jobs almost always are missed by the min wage laws. Even Walmart likes to hire more people at part time than fewer at full time because then they don't have to pay benefits, SS, insurance, pension, taxes, and makes labor cheaper. Its all about how big US corporations can cheat employees born in the USA (in addition to foreigners).

A lot of them are wrong and misinformed.

and to portions of legislation enacted by the

You don't know the details and you don't know the cheats.

Fine, we have a lot of bad things in the USA, too.

That doesn't mean there is no slavery in the US

If you want to call it exploitation, then I will agree with you. But its not slavery and its not the mainstay of the US economy. 99.999999% of the population does not have chains around its arms and legs. The others are smuggled in and they have to be hidden. The 4 percent or so that are here illegally and are ignorant and can't speak or understand english are good targets for exploitation and unscrupulous employers will exploit them.

60% of that 12% is illegal and here of their own free will. The other 40% of that 12% is here legally and of their own free will. They only support part of "our" lifestyle, and all of their own. I never heard of any significant number even trying to leave.

It

I'm sorry, I don't agree. They can all go anytime they want as far as I'm concerned. If they don't like it here, they can go back to where they came from. I see they all want to stay. I don't see chains around their legs or arms. I see them all sitting out on their front porches, happily talking on free minutes to their relatives in Mexico on cell phones, and even the newspapers tell about them sending $20 billion back to their families where they came from.

You make up a big fantasy fairy tale of falsehood based on nothing but an anti-US abreastude.

Sorry, but the employers just love the H1B, and from what I'm reading there are people all over the world who love to come here on H1Bs and see what life here is like and decide whether to stay or go back. I see mostly Russians here in restaurants, cash registers in lots of stores now, and I talk to almost all of them. Some want to stay, others want to go back. Its their choice. No slavery. They freely talk with me.

Same answer.

Fine, go tell them. I read on a.c.c all the time. Where are you telling them what to do? Go on the immigration newsgroups and tell them anything you want, I don't care. Just don't lie about facts.

That is not what I said. You call it slavery, it is not. But the fine print is out there and the exploiter does not have to tell you about it. That is why it is called fine print. Anyone in the USA who has heard about this, knows what it is about. The fine print is always a trap. But, it is not slavery. YOu have to read the fine print before you sign your name.

I

I am. You take something I say and make it into whatever you want. Its your big defect.

I'm sorry, I have no sympathy for people who want to just come here and have everything handed to them on a silver platter for free just like born citizens who have citizenship as a birthright. You have no claim over that. If you want to get a green card, there are procedures. If you want to become a citizen, there are procedures, too.

The real parasites are the executives who do nothing for their high salaries, and the real parasites are the foreigners who come here and expect to get jobs, money, govt services, free hospital treatment all for just gate crashing.

And, besides, a lot of them are theives, too.

You can find

And, you just say that Americans don't have a right to a job and all that means is that you consider it OK to steal someone else's livlihood. Fine, lets send the British back into India and run the country and take out of it whatever they want. Because then you, as Indians born in your own country, don't own your rights either.

Well, I'm sorry if you don't have enough money to put your immovable property in storage so you can sell it and get some of your money back. Do you think this does never happen to US people in the USA? Why should I have more sympathy for you than for US people here that this happens to?

Before they get to the US

That is THEIR problem, not MY problem.

Sorry, the laws are written and go into books. Everyone has to beware of the laws. If I go to India, then the moment I get off the plane, the Indian government does not put into my hands many large boxes of all Indian laws for me to read about. And, it does not happen to Indians that get off the plane when it lands in the USA, either. You have to talk to people and ask questions.

if they keep mum

Yes.