India following facist model according to Indian author 1748

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Kamal R. Prasad

Not true.

Sorry, the H1B can go apply to anyone who advertises for an applicant who already has an H1B visa. And, I'm sorry, I have no sympathy if a H1B does something wrong to make an employer unhappy.

Wrong.

I know of

Fine, I think many have already done this.

H1Bs move around to other employers. I have seen the advertisements for only H1Bs can apply. You are confused about what "captive" means.

Big deal, they can become students again, and get student visas easy.

All it takes is money and time. I know many who have done this.

They come anyway. In Europe it is a big problem in Italy; tons of people are coming up from Africa. Cross on anything that floats.

b-c they can pay the illegals less.

or why doesn't the govt

its cheaper for the company to pay less wages to the illegals and pay the fines than to pay legals.

Its really simple for law

I'm telling you it only happens to a small fraction of the large companies.

The only reason I can think of

Most customers don't care and the companies are all competing with each other. Its called a race to the bottom.

Look, the illegals come in by the millions and you can't hire 50,000-100,000 policemen to find them without spending $billions more money. Pols don't want to raise taxes.

Its so funny to me that you see things that just don't exist.

I said she got a job. I'm sure it was not a job that required a green card. That takes more time. I'm sure it was a NIV and what she does in the future is her business. Go read above: she was not forced to take a campus job paying less than min wage. I paid her a lot more than min wage, and she got a full time job paying more than I paid her.

Not true. I wrote letters so they could get a green card. Some of them got their green card.

Exceptions would be relatives, spouses, parents etc. I

There is a process and it takes time. Its true.

Yes, they are called homeless. And, I saw one in Moscow and one in Germany, and my Russian friends said they have a word for homeless in Russia, too. It means "person without flat". At least a slave gets a place to sleep and the owner has to provide food.

It

Fine.

A lot of them. I explained many times.

See below.

And, what about if there is a reason for this such as the H1B commits a crime against the company? Or, do you think an H1B should just be free to break the law or not work?

And, so what on this?

And, how often does this happen? Very rarely.

First, again, its not slavery. Second, why should a foreigner come here and get off the plane and get the same rights as a citizen?

Big exageration.

On

I think it is fine to deport people if they don't work and do a good job.

Every visa type issued by the US

Sorry, I have no sympathy with you on this. They came by their own free choice. Nobody sent guys with guns to India to kidnap you to come here.

Nobody goes to Mexico and captures them and puts them in chains.

There are many constraints which the US

I have no sympathy for Hispanics who come here and can't or won't learn english first but expect to be handed a free life on a silver platter.

Think of your govt as a

OK, lets talk about your wonderful government which has yet to make the rupee convertible, has not opened its market to the outside, and is backslidding on reforms.

One

Yeah, how about your 250 million Dalits that get less in life than the 10 million Mexicans illegally in the USA.

Fine, if you didn't like it here, you were free to go back to India and you did that. Go and complain about it on your Indian NGs and the immigration NGs.

Oh, inflated currency? Well, I don't care what the reason is, everyone still wants to come to the USA for any reason. I never invited any of them.

We're all doing probably better than 80-85% of the rest of the world. You want to go some other place besides India or stay in India, then fine with me.

All a bunch of anti-US bashing. You've got tons of problems in India, too.

I have no interest in going to India. If you are happier there, then fine with me. Most people come here and stay.

If

The real slavery is in India, not the USA.

Im just trying to create awareness

Go to the other NGs and tell them you mixture of truth and lies.

Funny thing is that most of that H1B labor seems to be pretty happy here. I am never hearing about Indians or anyone running away from a job after a few days or weeks of work.

Fine, as I said before.

Exploitation, not slavery.

is practised by the employer, not by the customer. At one pt,

It is a fact of history that all new immigrants were exploited and especially if they were uneducated and could not speak the language. What good is a worker if they can't speak the language? What good is a worker if they are uneducated? What do you want? Some ignorant guy to get $30-hour for doing nothing?

Blah, blah, blah......

You are born in a country or you are not born in a country. Physical Fact.

All humans were born to

Sorry, children of rich parents usually get inheritances of money. Children of poor parents usually get nothing. Or, why should an immigrant get the same rights as citizens?

Every country's native population is a result of human

Oh, this is part of YOUR idea that YOU want to decide that an Indian immigrant gets US rights when he gets off a plane AND a US citizen has no rights. That is YOUR idea of a free ride handed to you on a silver platter.

Too bad, no sympathy for you. Yes, the world is unfair, isn't it? Just like you have no sympathy for the US guys who get their jobs taken away and given to Indians. So, just for you: no sympathy for you and your problems.

Only the executives (and criminals).

And, the foreigners don't care who they steal anything from. 60% are illegal just as they cross the border. Then they go on to steal more from there.

They hold their nose when hiring many a native coz they

Whatever.

Oh, I think its just fine if we slow down giving citizenship to anyone who wants it.

So, lets ensure they remain on

Fine, I am against handing a free ride to guys who just come over and want jobs on a sliver platter.

OK, your whole country under the British, wasn't your country either. So, now maybe I'm sorry the British left. Maybe you would be quiet. Esp since you are ungrateful that they left on their own free will.

It belongs to the investor who puts

The country belongs to the people, its in our consbreastution.

then by

All executive theives.

Just bring back Imperialism.

But that doesn't mean they cannot work

I strongly doubt this. Most of the very few are either transfered, or just want to visit India, or want India on their resume. They followed nothing.

They can live as

Its in all the papers I read that your employers want high caste Hindus.

The govt is

I have zero interest in becoming a citizen of India. What does India have to offer me? A pile of dust? A world of corruption, bribes, and bad roads and electricity that goes out pretty often?

They have full rights on landing legally - other

If you are happy there, fine with me.

Sorry, no sympathy for you.

I'd like to fix the H1B by eliminating it.

I agree with you about 5% of the time, yes.