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On Sunday 04 December 2005 01:35, Tom Shelton stood up and spoke the following words to the mbuttes incomp.os.linux.advocacy...:

For starters, I want an NTPL-only system. I also want to use theSRVDIRUSE flag.

If I opt for a stage-3 and then recompile the system afterwards, it's going to take me twice as long, and none of the stuff that will be installed into *-var* by a stage-3 will be removed when the new compilation installs stuff into *-srv.* I also don't need Gnome support as I use KDE, although I will be using GTK support.

I can understand that there are some who would be better off with a stage-3, but then those are also typically the people who would already have problems with that, and who know very little of GNU-Linux.

It's also not like there actually were three different documentation branches, one per chosen stage tarball. The stage-1 and stage-2 approaches were simply chapters in the already existing Gentoo Documentation Project.

Well, I have a printed out copy of the x86 Handbook from before the decision was made to drop stages 1 and 2 from the Handbooks.

We both know that the kernel is only a small, albeit important part of the distribution. Compilingglibcwith NTPL support and without the Linuxthreads support - which will be abandoned in the near future by theglibcdevelopers anyway - certainly makes a difference; not only in terms of performance but most certainly in how the rest of the system operates.

The time-consuming part is an important consideration, especially now that the latest Portage Python scripts seem to have become incredibly slow.

Sure, they're not taking away our freedom - and strictly speaking, neither are RedHat or Mandriva - but they sure make it a lot harder for those of us who do know what they're doing.

I don't really find it all that efficient if I have to install a stage-3 first, then tweak my USE flags and C(XX)FLAGS, recompile my entire system and then upgrade togcc3.4 - I would actually prefer 4.0.2 - and recompile the entire system once again, not to mention that I'll still have to start tweaking things from there on, such asprelinkingKDE and applying my custom security tweaks.

-- With kind regards,

*Aragorn* (Registered GNU-Linux user #223157)