Some comments on the latest Linux Format magazine 13180
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On Tuesday 25 October 2005 10:31, amosf stood up and spoke the following words to the mbuttes incomp.os.linux.advocacy...:
Which again I feel I have to refute. As with the previous reply from me, I'm going to make use ofatmosf'sreply to straighten this out...
If he's not a troll, then let's call him a biased and clueless Microsoft apologist and GNU-Linux naysayer from now on. ;-)
Those are Microsoft Windows viruses, propagated by Microsoft Windows e-mail clients and other Internet-connected aspects of Windows, or even by hidden SMTP or FTP servers in your Windows machine.
So the problem is not GNU-Linux's. For the record, I would like to add that my domain and my ISP are both using GNU-Linux mailservers which scan all incoming and outgoing e-mail for viruses.
Windows creates the virus problem, and GNU-Linux helps eradicate it.
Well it does. Microsoft machines cannot protect themselves, let alone anything else.
DFS only way that can happen would be by the intervention of your favourite dubyastandards government oh yes we would. the development teams would, for a start, and, see above...
The Gimp is better. It's a professional application, which you would not have heard of before it appeared as a standard feature application in GNU-Linux. The Gimp was already being used on other UNIX systems by professionals long before Photoshop was even available for Windows.
Access is a toy, compared to genuine relational databases.
Gnumeric, OpenOffice Calc and KCalc are better.
OpenOffice Impress is just as good. KPresenter is also nice.
DFS How do you know? Did you ask everyone? I love the way you make...
Sorry, I don't know that one.
Dijkstra : "Anyone who's been exposed to BASIC has braindamage beyond repair".
Mono is just as good.
Scribus.
Don't know that one.
GnuCash.
Yes, you do seem to have a strange favor for Microsoft, don't you?
Aragorn You can't straighten out what was never crooked... That's a mouthful of lies, but if you insist. They're happily delivered by Linux-OSS, so Linux...
Also exists on GNU-Linux, by the way.
Idem ditto.
Idem ditto. Not my preferred browser though. I have it installed here. I much prefer Konqueror.
There are also hundreds or thousands of apps for which there *is* *no* Windows version, or for which only now a Windows version is being developed.
The coders don't earn zilch by the software being proprietary. On the contrary, their intellectual property will have to be transfered to Microsoft.
They also have to work on their projects from nine to five every day, even when they are having an off-day. What do you think that does to the code? Oh, and there's no catching up later. Deadlines are deadlines.
Sure, whatever. Let's count the crashes and the lock-ups, let's evaluate the uptime, etc.
That's a given and documented fact. Microsoft took out a license for that, even. Look it up.
According to the book from an IBM developer I've read, OS-2 was developed by IBM in cooperation with Microsoft, not the other way around as had been the case for DOS - IBM had a license to release PC-DOS for use on IBM machines, but OS-2 was their baby.
For a fundamentally flawed, bare operating system with crippled functionality, gratuitous instability and a criminally insecure default set-up, that amount is far too much.
Besides, you *do* know that Microsoft maintains an 80% profit margin, don't you?
Thomas Wootten How about that? Another Bush-hating Linux user. Who could have guessed? Geeks in...
Yeah, right...
Comparing Windows to a Ferrari now, are you? Well, I guess my computer must be a whole garage full of Lamborghinis and Porsches then.
DFS wrote something like: It really is a feature. Look, somebody went to a lot of trouble writing those viruses. Win users have gone to a lot of trouble leaving their PC's open...
Save your sarcasm, okay? Nearly everyone I know in person who uses GNU-Linux has bought a distro, period. If you're going to say that's not true, then you might as well call me a liar.
Hint: I don't have the reputation of being a liar.
Besides, in the style of the other FUD'sters around here, I would like to see *proof* of this "fact" you are speaking about.
If you don't have any previous license to warrant the purchase of an Upgrade Edition, then you do have to purchase the full retail version.
It's expensive because it's a damn rip-off. It's not worth its money.
I live in a town with a great deal of racists and a great deal of Moroccan and Turkish immigrants.
Oh, and my second cousin is black. Her mother was a Belgian native, her father an African. Are you going to call her inferior? Or stupid? She does happen to have a University degree, and over here, those are not given away as gratuitously as in the USA.
The one thing I have seen from history is that the White Man has always been the most cruel and vicious, and was always best at stealing other people's homeland, enslaving them and driving them off into reservations.
Jesus Christ, that there still are people who judge others by the color of their skin, in the 21st Century, it's simply outrageous!
I know for a fact that I'm right, as I have seen it. Now *you* must prove me wrong, with hard evidence. But there isn't any. It's all in your head.
You're delusional, period.
To build one, yes. To buy one... Try that from the brandname computer sellers. And if you buy it without Windows, then you are buying it with Windows, but without that you get the copy of Windows.
Besides, you'll never own Windows. Microsoft owns it. All you get to own is the CD and the box. You don't even own the right to say "no" when Microsoft demands an audit of your computer.
??? Have you been struck by lightning? Have you been touched by an Angel? Did aliens get to your subconscious self? *You* are going to contribute to the OSDL? You???
If Microsoft is so good and their software so affordable, then why would they need compebreastion?
Or another version of NT... Oh wait, they are! ;-)
-- With kind regards,
*Aragorn* (Registered GNU-Linux user #223157)