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Side note: Larry, you really should learn to Trim at least the irrelevant parts of a post. If you're not going to address that part, trim it out. Also, i've seen you post a great deal of messages leaving stuff at the end of the message as well, which is bad nettiquette in most cases.

On 5 Mar 2006 17:57:43 -0800, Larry Qualig

I agree. I don't think they are consciously scared, but I have a hard time understanding why so much effort is being spent to debunk something if they don't have some degree of fear.

I also run Linux machines, but I don't like most of the software that's available for Linux. KNews isn't bad, but I really prefer Dialog because it's more powerful. Outlook is the most powerful email and personal infomration manager app i've ever used. However, despite that, I only used Outlook at work for years because it was intrusive to leave running all the time. Outlook 2003 changed that by offering the Minimize to Tray function and i've not looked back. IE loads faster, and renders pages faster in my experience (so long as you keep your cache and history relatively clean), and I despise tabs so I don't use them even when i'm using Firefox. I do use them with Opera because opera is too much of a hog to load mutliple instances (not even sure if you CAN load multiple instances, I haven't tried).

All in all, i'm not going to run Linux on my desktop if I don't like the apps.

Adequate is not enough. Sure, many of the apps are adequate, but nobody want's to use something that's 'adequate' when you can use something you Like.

If users cared about technical issues, everyone would be buying BMW's and Saab's. There are other priorities in peoples lives, though. Some people just don't like Saab's, for instance, and even if it was the cheapest car on the market wouldn't buy one. Or there are some people that just like Ford's.

Indeed. A client came to once and said this:

"I was told that Unix was the most secure OS to run network services on. Why would I want to use Windows?"

My answer was this:

"In many ways, that's correct. Unix can be a highly secure OS to run services on. It's not automatically so, though. You need a send administrator and good developers with years of Unix experience. You need the same for Windows as well, but such administrators and developers are much easier to find, and work cheaper.

Further, Microsoft oriented tools tend to focus on productivity, while Unix oritented tools tend to focus on power and flexibility. Both have their pros and cons, but it depends on your priorities. Is it more important to get a product to market fast or to have it well engineered? Quality, Development Time, Performance, pick 2."

What was important to the client was that he get the product done within a certain time frame, that he do it cheaply, and that his regular developers could maintain the product long after I was gone. He just wanted the other stuff to magically come along with those other priorities, without expending the time or money to account for them. Since his developers knew VB, that dictated I write the app in VB (not my first choice).

Which has been my point over and over again in here. It's very seldom that I criticize Linux, since I know it's a good OS. It's just not the right OS for many jobs.

On the desktop. And that's largely a function of the non-savvy user base and the seedy characters who want to take advantage of them.

My machine stays up and running for months at a time without a reboot or shutdown. I wouldn't tolerate constant crashes.