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I'm neither dead nor dense. OS X has already been ported - Apple has been dating Intel for a while now in a secret parallel life BSD base of Darwin, why would you think that was so impossible anyway?

And Windows is (unfortunately) far from dead.

Just curious: What is it about Apple that engenders such hatred from some in the Linux community? Darwin is open source, OS X is Darwin plus some packaging, its all BSD based, and most BSD or Linux code compiles and runs easily on it. I can certainly see making arguments that you prefer Linux, whether for technical or political reasons, but what's with the outright hatred?

I can "hate" Microsoft Windows because of its basic design: it's not Unixy, it's not adaptable, very little of it is accessible to user modification and control. I *like* Unix semantics, and Apple has put together a nice little box with a solid Unix base and a lot of nicely done extras on top. I'm not under any illusions that Apple is any less "evil" than Microsoft; I'm sure they would abuse power just as Microsoft has. I am strongly in favor of open source, opposed to software patents etc. and understand that Apple isn't completely "open" - is that the source of the dislike?

Oh well. I like Linux, but I like my iBook too. And I still think that a virtualization product like Vmware on an Intel based Mac OS X is a powerful idea.

-- Tony Lawrence