What about CSMA COLA makes people flame 1817

This should be good - let's see your "support facts" to to your claims there. Then perhaps we can compare your comments to mine and see who is the most argumentative and aggressive.

Again, shall we compare my posts and yours? Compare the percent of cross posting we have each done in the last week?

You disagree so you flame, and then you call me aggressive. That is your choice...

Only Rick - and only in response to his silly flaming of me.

I am able to talk about the needs of people I have been working with for many, many years. Yes. I can tell you very specifically reasons why I have come to the conclusions I have. Keep in mind what I am looking for

* consistent and easy to use dialogs * consistent and easy to use window widgets * consistent methods to do common tasks (such as make new folders) * windowing that has an attractive and reasonably high contrast look (I pointed to the defaults on a LiveCD that did not meet this) * a relatively simple interface with little clutter

None of this is that controversial - or should be. As it stands I have not seen a version distro of Linux that meets these needs - though I have been shown screen shots from the new Ubuntu that may very well (and no, I am not suggesting that is the only distro, just happens to be the one I was shown screen shots to). Nor have I tried Mandrake or SuSE, two distros that have been suggested to me as ones that may meet my needs.

Hmmm, have you been reading any of my posts? No interest? Sure - I am far from being an expert in Linux - but keep in mind I am new to it and lacking in hardware to test it.

LOL... ah, you have been listening to Elizabot... do you know the history there? She is an emotional pre-teen with an obsessive crush on me... and about 99% of her posts are to or about me.

In any case, did you bother to ask if I really had gone? Did you bother to ask what happened? Did you bother to ask anything... no, you did not.

You are simply making buttumptions based on no data - and then accusing me of doing what *you* are doing.

I have been very clear with you on this: I am a instructor at a local college where I teach, among others, intro clbuttes. I also do private consulting where most of my clients are older, non-technical users. I have also worked in many other capacities over the years working with relatively new (and also very experienced) users - and yes, the number of people I have had direct contact with and have worked with in this capacity is well over 1000 and likely over 2000. I surely could not give you an exact number.

You, on the other hand, showed no capacity to understand such things and were clearly trolling and flaming instead of showing any interest in understanding. Do you need me to pull up quotes from our conversations to support this claim of mine?

Again, shall we compare our early conversations and see who was provoking whom? When I commented on having problems getting a couple of ISO's to burn - a problem which has since been solved - you responded by saying you did not know why I was even posting here. When I told you my students use MS Word and that having access to it was important to them you told me that this looks to you like a troll... as though you could not believe that people need MS Word or something very much like it.

From there you went on bragging about what your children can do, as though that was supposed to be a reasoned counter-example to refute what I have seen with many, many (call it "merely" many hundreds if you prefer) of new and non-techy users... many of them older. I pointed this out, and you kept running back to your kids - so I asked you if you thought they were an average example, and you took offense.

You also trolled me when I commented about how there was no easy way for most users to get to experience different distros of Linux - which is completely true, esp. for the population in question. You showed a very poor understanding and started ranting and trolling about how this must mean I can not pick shoes! Well, you know what, I would *not* pick shoes I was not familiar with from a web store, I would try them on first... which is a point you showed no capacity to understand.

From there you sank to meaningless flames such as:

I've finally realised where I've come across snit behaviour before. Ê It's the Mrs, on a monthly basis... Ê

I postulate that snit is a menopausal female, or wants to be one.

While you may be able to argue that some of the above was from some misunderstanding and that you should not be held accountable, clearly this was a pattern to your commentary.

I certainly have peeed off many trolls in CSMA. Care to look at the posts?

And yet you will continue to bad mouth me. Poor form, and a good indication you are merely trolling flaming.

-- I am one of only .3% of people who have avoided becoming a statistic.

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