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First | Previous | Next | Last Linus CHARGING $5,000 to use Linux name!!!!! 10730 On the comp.os.linux.advocacy meeting for Friday 19 August 2005 12:29 pm, Karen Hill submitted the following proposal... It's completely understandable why this is happening. Unfortunately, it is necessary. When... Linus CHARGING $5,000 to use Linux name!!!!! 10731 wrote in message Ah, and what a history you have! Flatfish is: Aftab Singh, allisonhunt1968 plus 1, Anna Banger, anonymous, Archie Watermann, Baba Booey, Babu... Kubuntu and WiFi wWPA While I could ask this quesiton on a hardware group, I thought i'd give you guys first chance at the "advocacy" to show me how simple this is. I've been playing around with Kubuntu... Windows XP Installation Instructions Welcome! In this chapter, you will learn all about installing Microsoft(TM) Windows(TM) XP(TM) Home Edition(TM) on your personal computer. Microsoft(TM) Windows(TM) XP(TM) Home Edition(TM) is the... Windows XP Installation Instructions 10735 The Ghost In The Machine I wanted to put something like "and a Linux rescue CD in case you f*** up" here, but... Oversight! :) Your long explanation was *very* interesting... Windows XP Installation Instructions 10736 In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Nikos Chantziaras wrote on Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:30:12 +0300 I heartily recommend a Gentoo minimal livedisc. :-) (The universal one's a shade too big and I've... Spencer F. Katt El Gato esta mut divertido! "Facing another sweltering week in Boston, Spencer sought a cooler place. "It's not so much the heat as the humidity, but if you can't stand the heat," clichéd... Top 15 Exciting Things To Do With Linux Hi, I am putting together a post with the breastle: '15 exciting things to do with Linux' for my blog. Right now I have: ================= A - F. thinking... 9. Roll a distribution with user interface... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10740 Tom Shelton poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: It is *not* xorg. It is XFree86... Linønut screen shots The browser fonts are not anti-aliased in that first PNG file. Compare the word "Gentoo" in the "We produce Gentoo" sentence to the word "Gentoo" in the "Dedicated Gentoo servers... Linnut screen shots 10742 You are right, ClearType is not active on default XP installation, which is understandable: TFT flat panels were certainly not the norm when... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10743 Well, not exactly. There have been user-space thread implementations, but Linux invented a alternative route, where the LinuxThreads library... Lin screen shots 10744 Larry Qualig wrote something like: Freedom is an odd concept actually and depends on a POV. Nobody is really 'free' except within the boundaries that a particular society allows. Look at 'democracy... Lin screen shots 10745 OK poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: I think the discussion is confusing "driver" with "services": User... Linnut screen shots 10746 That's just horse poo. Your beliefs very are outdated. Current versions of Windows runs the largest graphic apps perfectly well. As a matter of fact some companies ported their flagship product from... Linnut screen shots 10747 OK Oh really now?? Then how come the Irish railroad had been using a VAX for scheduling their trains never crashed in 17 years of operation?? Well, then Intel, a very big flagship company... Linnut screen shots 10748 OK poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: When a user program executes a system call... Linnut screen shots 10749 OK poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: Yes. Isn't that so cool!? No. It would take a mistake to bring it down. It definitely does require more wisdom and knowledge on... Linnut screen shots 10750 No, it's a hack. Code running in kernel mode is not isolated from other code running in the same mode. Check this out: "The benefit of executing user programs in kernel... Linnut screen shots 10751 OK poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: Hacks are cool. Of course, you probably want to stick with creating your own... Linnut screen shots 10752 OK poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: I agree. I even agree that Microsoft is not to blame for allowing GDI in the kernel, though it does put a... Linnut screen shots 10753 On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 12:05:05 -0400, Bob Hauck Yes they did it, but it does not mean than all... Linnut screen shots 10754 I would hope not. Even MS isn't that dumb. I think. Great. So they can look good on benchmarks of serving static web pages. I mean, if... Linnut screen shots 10755 On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:21:44 -0400, Bob Hauck Not all sites are dynamic and even on dynamic sites, part of the content (logos, master page(s), stylesheets...) can still be static. Moreover... Linnut screen shots 10756 Of course. Did you not understand what I wrote? Only static content is gong to be in the disk cache. Because of that... Linnut screen shots 10757 I understand perfectly well what you said. In the part that you snipped out I talked about doing the same thing in user mode. I wonder why you snipped that... Linnut screen shots 10758 That you finally found the relevant section of MSDN? Yeah, that is great! And yet it seems to have no clear performance advantage over Linux + Samba. Funny, that. I see. You... Linnut screen shots 10759 all about TransmitFile() and how it was implemented before sendfile() To refresh your memory of the sequence of events: 1. You claim that http in the kernel is a good thing. 2. I say... Linnut screen shots 10760 On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 19:02:23 -0400, Bob Hauck I still do. Not everything that must be sent by a web server is a file... are you suggesting that dynamic content... Linnut screen shots 10761 Yes you miss something. Not everything that is treated like a file is actually a bunch of inodes... Linnut screen shots 10762 Yes, but why does it need to be in the kernel? Since you seem to like marketing bullpoo, here's a blurb on the Zend engine for... Linnut screen shots 10763 OK poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: You have some real funny logic: Win 2003 "crushes" Linux 2.4 on a certain task... Linnut screen shots 10764 It is worth nothing that we don't know the thread context switch time from your benchmark, for at least two reasons: first, the... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10765 I've attached a Linux version. Pthread condvars don't quite work like Windows events so I kinda hacked an equivalent API. I don't think it's significant; if anything, my code's... Linnut screen shots 10766 On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:26:01 GMT, Ray Ingles I got my 18845 (Average CPU cycles) on a dual Xeon with HT enabled, XP SP2... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10767 They do look similar on average. I still need to work out a process-related benchmark on Linux and Windows. I might be able to adapt the stuff... Linnut screen shots 10768 On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:28:57 -0400, "Larry Qualig" We have at least 6 distinct test cases, Uniprocessor kernel, MultiProcessor kernel on dual CPUs, MultiProcessor kernel... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10768 plus 1 Yeah, it gets complicated fairly quickly. I've had hardware problems and other priorities, but I spent a little time putting together process-based benchmarks for this stuff, with Unix... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10770 One last bit. With the work laptop I took to Ireland, I ran the process tests. The hardware is a P-III Coppermine at 700MHz, running Windows 2000 Server and Knoppix 3.8. The results are... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10771 Here are my results, on a dual 2.1GHz ("2.6Ghz Intel equivalent") Athlon MP system. Both tests were run in SMP mode, there wasn't time to test with... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10772 And here's the Windows thread test. I've tweaked it just a little from OK's original code, but I do not believe I have changed its... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10773 Here's the unix thread test I'm using: ----- oktestu.c; compile with "gcc -O2 oktestu.c -o oktestu -lpthread" ----- #define ITER 1500000 * Buncha stuff... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10774 Here's the Windows version: ------ wproctest.c ------ #include "stdafx.h" #define DEFAULTITER 1500000 typedef struct sharedstuff { long done; int64 total, lastmain, low, high; } SHAREDSTUFF... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10775 Here's the Unix version: ------ uproctest.c; compile with "gcc -O2 uproctest.c -o uproctest ------ #define ITER 1500000 typedef union semun { int... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10776 I was finally able to get the thing to compile, but for some odd reason, it doesn't like shoving an int64 at cout; I had to redefine the 'took' variable to... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10777 Okay, I've got some interesting results. I composed two programs that do basically the same thing on both platforms - spawn a thread, and use mutexes... qRe:_Lin=F8nut_screen_shots= 10778 Ray Ingles It's good to hear that it's now compiling and running. The Sleep(x) function shouldn't affect the timing whether you sleep for 500 mSec or just do a Sleep... qRe:_Lin=F8nut_screen_shots= 10779 Code that compiles is below. The "#pragma" that you commented out will prevent it from compiling. I converted the pragma into a function that will replace it with a call to rdtsc. The reason that... QLin=F8nut= screen shots 10780 In comp.os.linux.advocacy, GreyCloud wrote on Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:22:09 -0600 Actually, I for one would hope... I hate widescreen I know, sacrilege right? It's just that I find it detracts from the viewing experience for me. Those squeezed windows and... I hate widescreen! 10782 On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:25:19 -0400, rapskat While that may work with many movies, you're going to miss a... I hate widescreen! 10783 John Bailo I always buy the version in the format the film was made in - I hate converted movies that constantly pan left&right (I especially hate... Security advisories MS v Linux Several years ago there was a heated discussion on security channels whether security vulnerabilities should be notified to the public when they were discovered... Security advisories MS v Linux Roy Culley First of all "Linux" is not an organization like Microsoft, so to say that "Linux" releases security updates at the earliest moment is a stretch of the truth. For example, say... COLA Stats 21 Aug 2005 begin ngstats.pl version 1.9 This report covers 2039 articles received by this system to newsgroup... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10787 On the comp.os.linux.advocacy meeting for Sunday 21 August 2005 01:43 am, OK submitted the following proposal... Web stats... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10788 Well I'm not going to post IP addresses here, Ray! Good grief! Would you? What is the source of your disbelief? My sense of it is that almost 500 people who... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10789 John Bailo Google still has Zeitgeist stats but it removed the browser-OS info from the stats a couple... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10790 You mean "theory", of course. You haven't proved anything from first principles here. You haven't taken a statistics course, have you? Getting a representative sample takes conscious effort. E.g. you don't just... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10791 Well we only have some unsubstantiated reports that there is much of a penetration of Firefox into the... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10792 My bet is that it's mostly the other way around: "Youse guys gotta play ball, shee? Youse wanna keep shellin' in my naybahood youse gotta folla da rules. Youse don... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10793 And your report is 'substantiated' how? Wait, you tell me an *anecdote* about *one* friend, and... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10794 It covers a lot of things besides Linux. For example, on my "atheist" page (which gets hits primarily from people hitting search engines), here're... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10795 The pages may not have much to do with linux, but the overall purpose of the site is to... July 2005 is a huge milestone: Linux just overtook Windows 95... 10796 So 'techie' people search for atheist topics? I suppose there's a tech bias on the Palm app, but even then the numbers are *less* in...
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