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First | Previous | Next | Last MS Office on Linux 14753 Ray Ingles Well, I clearly meant "unwashed" in the sense of the Indian castes, Ray, it means unqualified, illiterate... MS Office on Linux 14754 Philip Callan There you go letting your prejudices and ignorance run away with your atbreastude, Phil. You... MS Office on Linux 14755 Ray Ingles You have to look at the larger picture, Ray. Follow the description given regarding the BIOS... MS Office on Linux 14756 Ask your buddy to discuss Computer buttociates v. Altai. He appears to be in the (distinct) minority. If you're so sure he's right, well, it... MS Office on Linux 14757 Ray Ingles I will, maybe weekend after next, since I'm off to the out of town relatives this coming weekend. I did read through the appellate decision, though, and I don't see anything... MS Office on Linux 14758 Ray Ingles You are confused, Ray. The expression of a different idea is going to be a lot different than two equivalent expressions of a common idea. Say you worked for... MS Office on Linux 14759 Ray Ingles Well, Ray, you take things to an extreme all the time. The original idea was that one could take a piece of source, however obtained, and use it for... MS Office on Linux 14760 Well, it doesn't seem that anyone else agrees with you, even people with monetary incentive to do so: "We do not... MS Office on Linux 14761 Ray Ingles I really don't see anything of any significance here, Ray. What do you think is the most telling item? It did spark my memory... MS Office on Linux 14762 Liam Slider You act so silly, Liam. Imagine, here you are insisting that some moron explain something to you! You have to admit that you look rather comical in... MS Office on Linux 14763 That's a message ID. Head to Google Groups, choose "Advanced Search", and look it up by message ID. *Because* that 30% had been replaced by *new* code, rewritten from scratch. I challenge... MS Office on Linux 14764 Ray Ingles Well, it would have been just as easy for you to tell me the date and time. I could... MS Office on Linux 14765 I'm trying to teach you to do your own research, so I don't have to... MS Office on Linux 14766 Ray Ingles I use Google a lot, Ray. It's a direct calculation, Ray. I don't think there are "many" ways... MS Office on Linux 14768 Ray Ingles You seem to have missed the point of the point, Ray! It said in full: "1) The primary indication of whether a... MS Office on Linux 14768 plus 1 Getting the companies to abide by the terms of the GPL. That violates the license. And yes, they did modify things to get them to work on their hardware. Quick, without looking... MS Office on Linux 14770 Ray Ingles "Distributing" meant burning the tables into their ROMs to use in their hardware. That's hardly a "distribution" in the sense that... MS Office on Linux 14771 Yes, they can; by releasing the source code to their software, people can use it to customize and modify the hardware to... MS Office on Linux 14772 Here are at least three one-pbutt versions: The problem with the algorithm you just described is that you have to have the mean... MS Office on Linux 14773 Ah, I was waiting for that! The point is that for a real program of any size, and even for... MS Office on Linux 14774 Ray Ingles I'll look one up, just for you, but not just this minute, Ray. From Red Hat's General Terms and Conditions: https:--www.redhat.com-licenses-rhelus3.html?country=United+States& "The term "Software" means the... MS Office on Linux 14775 Ray Ingles You cannot use Red Hat's media either, since it contains the logos and trademarks that cannot be distributed and are limited to the single installation for which they were supplied. That's... MS Office on Linux 14776 Well, no frickin' duh. The *point* was that they had to rewrite the code from scratch. Altai tried to do exactly what you were saying, take code from one project and use... MS Office on Linux 14777 Ray Ingles Never nicked a byte, Ray. Purely an intellectual exercise. As to why no one behaves differently, read the transcripts of the DOJ... MS Office on Linux 14778 I'm not a pirate, and I believe in copyright, so I haven't bothered looking for it. But it's out there... MS Office on Linux 14779 Shifting goalposts. I was pointing out innovations that originated in the open-source area per your request. No one said that multiple desktops... MS Office on Linux 14780 Ray Ingles I don't put much faith in the flacks who write these things and don't provide any real details about the studies. There have... MS Office on Linux 14781 Ray Ingles Those references are indeed very easy to find and I can type as well. What have... MS Office on Linux 14782 It isn't paranoia if they really are out to get you. Even you can't deny there are a lot of trolls who will say or do anything to provoke a reaction around... MS Office on Linux 14783 Ray Ingles I don't find it very interesting. The life cycle consists of a pointless disparagement of either Microsoft or OSS... MS Office on Linux 14784 Check out this guy who says it's his job: Here's his key support of this... MS Office on Linux 14786 Ray Ingles poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: Recognition Stallman has received numerous prizes and... MS Office on Linux Discussion, linux 14787 The theory that MS pays the local wintrolls would answer one question: Why do they do it? But it would do so by raising a harder question: Why would Microsoft... MS Office on Linux 14788 begin oeprotect.scr If you look at this from the viewpoint of someone googling for relevant linux information from groups to some query or other, then the pap... MS Office on Linux 14789 On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:59:10 +0100, Mark Kent That's certainly possible. Again, I'd agree that... MS Office on Linux 14790 Kier Well, it's not any kind of conspiracy at all, Kier, and not any kind of paid promotion either. We are right, of course, and you are... MS Office on Linux 14791 And yet, Linux *is* spreading, and growing. Even the latest big study which said (or at least was publicized as saying) that mid-size business weren't... MS Office on Linux 14792 Kier Linux is not very applicable to the general home market. Our concern was for the hypothetical IT customer who switched from a Windows server installation to a linux server installation and... MS Office on Linux 14793 Ray Ingles Well, at least you're a sport, Ray! You might consider that a lot of what you call truth is simply your own opinion. For example, did... MS Office on Linux 14794 DFS My own real concern is not with Stallman per se. I think that his anti-establishment appearance and general atbreastude cast linux in a poor light that... MS Office on Linux 14795 billwg WRONG RH says 'You can use this here CD to install a server OS on as many machines as you like, comprising of as many CPU's... MS Office on Linux 14796 Philip Callan You can read the whole thing, if you've a mind to do so, Phil, at: The license contains: "The Software and each... MS Office on Linux 14797 I didn't read the whole thing; I didn't *have* to to see the problems with your claims. The part you quoted says nothing of the sort. It only says that people... MS Office on Linux 14798 Ray Ingles Well, It's an old question and there is no real answer. If you go to b-school and take marketing courses they talk about market dynamics and how... MS Office on Linux 14799 The notion that because a man or a corporation has made a profit... the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future... MS Office on Linux 14800 Ray Ingles 1. Bring much money. 2. Don't be fooled by any hotel-motel claim that says you can stay "near" Disney for less, particularly any that involve International... MS Office on Linux 14801 Ray Ingles Well, don't try to sneak one by on the outside corner, Ray! It won't work. The judgment by the DCCCOA regarding the... MS Office on Linux 14802 Ray Ingles "After carefully considering the voluminous record on appeal--including the District Court's Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, the testimony and exhibits... MS Office on Linux 14803 Well, he *did* make it a requirement that his statements not be published until the trial was over. Apparently he figured that satisfied the requirements; obviously the appeals court disagreed, and they... MS Office on Linux 14804 Yup, me too... at work. Because the testing is done differently. Instead of fixing a lot of bugs and moving in a lot of new features, then doing a code-freeze and... MS Office on Linux 14805 Ray Ingles I looked at the reference and did not see immediately what it was. I'll go back and see when-if I have the time to think about... MS Office on Linux 14806 Ray Ingles Well, I used it initially because Kier said it was so swell. I thought it was remarkedly similar to OE... MS Office on Linux 14807 Uh, oh, another merry-go-round. You are saying that very few users can debug the code of others, right? For some... MS Office on Linux 14808 Ray Ingles I am saying that for something like linux, where there are some 1 (.5%)to 6 (3%) million users, the mainstream... MS Office on Linux 14809 Ray Ingles Pick your own range, then, Ray. The .5% to 3% are the various guesses as to the percentage of desktop machines now... MS Office on Linux 14810 Not many commercial projects that I'm aware of publish *all* of their dayly builds... That's a separate issue. 'Deep' bugs are covered in a slightly different... MS Office on Linux 14811 Linønut Is there an IBM kernel and a NSA kernel? I don't think that IBM even has a distribution. I don't... MS Office on Linux 14812 Linønut "The server market expanded 7.3% in Q1 2004 to $11.5 bln as business buying pushed the market to its fourth consecutive quarter of growth, according to IDC. Shipments climbed... MS Office on Linux 14813 billwg poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: Sorry, you are not to be believed on this one. And, of course, that is mostly... MS Office on Linux 14814 Linønut So what do you think is the reason that the courts took next to no action? Do the OSS proponents know the law better than the... MS Office on Linux 14815 Ray Ingles I don't agree that FUD "has become generalized to refer to any kind of disinformation used as a compebreastive weapon". I think it still refers... MS Office on Linux 14816 Ray Ingles While this seems to bear out the claim, the first cite says: Key Linux developers can... MS Office on Linux 14818 billwg poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: Yes, you will. Why? Because people... MS Office on Linux 14819 Linønut No you won't. Why? Consider that someone will be using the software for so many hours a... MS Office on Linux 14820 billwg poked his little head through the XP firewall and said: Okay. The time loss is minimal, believe me. Even a complex upgrade such...
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