the state of linux as i see it 13301

computer savvy. WindowsXP when properly administered and and maintained is just as reliable, stable and secure as a Linux box that is treated the same

that's correct, these folks are like 98% of the population... too bad msft ignores their needs, right?

except for my windows IT buddy with two home computers jacked (most likely due to children use).

that's true.

for anyone willing to spend a little time learning the fundamentals of how computers and networks actually function. For example of the two Windows desktops and one Windows server I have here, only my wife's desktop has any kind of AV-AS software running on it, and that's just because it makes her feel better. My desktop, and the public web-ftp-dns-email server has no AV software running on at all. I do occasionally throw a Symantec CD in and scan them with the latest virus definitions, but nothing is ever

where is microsoft's tutorial showing 98% of their customers how to set up this magic network that doesn't need malware, adware, virus and trohjan protection?

where is *your* tutorial to educate the mbuttes as msft sets out to make money on anti-adware and anti-virus software for their own OS?

do you use internet explorer? i've found that the quickest and easiest way to reduce one's chances of jacking up their computer is to use firefox, netscape, opera... anything but ie... can you point me to where microsoft tells this to their customers?

do you roam the net using ie with no protection? i, for one, can't wait for that tutorial... you might want to pbutt it on to bill gates, too... seeming how he somehow got the idea anti-virus software IS A REQUIREMENT.

got tutorial?

automatic updates is broken? shame, shame!

you mean the *default* option for windows?

they also open emails... darn them!

install drivers without first making sure there is a way to return the system to the exact state it was in prior to installing the new untested driver. They will routinely install some new wizbang app-utility-game from some unknown untrusted URL. If the majority of Linux users routinely committed these same "sins," and you happened across four Linux users who were having problems, would you say that those four people "have

like i said, microsoft is a lie up front and then let the pain hit their "marks" after they already have the mooolah kind of company...

in linux, knowing this stuff is close to a prerequisite... BEFORE you begin.

since ~98% of folks are like this... does this really surprise you?

don't have to be infected with malware, if the people using them would exercise just a little common sense and spend just a small amount of time learning what should be done and how to do it, and what should not be

again, can't wait for that tutorial to show the mbuttes how to run ie6 in the wild with no protection. since it won't take much time to learn... that tutorial should be quick to put together!

it's a well understood phenomena, and is easily prevented with just a

got tutorial?

incompetence. I know it's possible to run a clean stable Windows machine because I've done so for the last several years, As I said, that's without the aid of anti-virus software. If you have the additional aid of AV software, I don't think the majority of blame falls to Microsoft if

tutorial? the windows world has been waiting just for you to lead them out of this mess! imagine, bill gates so darn stoooopid he's wasting time on unnecessary anti-virus software INSTEAD of sharing your knowledge on microsoft.com.

internet explorer is a textbook case of incompetence. if you've ever programmed cross browser compatible websites... 'nuff said. the fact msft doesn't come out and say to not use their crappy product isn't incompetence... it is greed and a total lack of concern for their for their "marks" and the trail of wiped hard drives... that has to number in the many millions each and every year...

code a html web page much beyond "Hello World" if my life depended on

suffice to say i decided to drop my current css based web framework because IE broke it beyond repair... it chokes on the standards and even the hacks were helpless because i had to break other parts of the program in order to enable the hacks... ie6 is the WORST browser out there...

but they don't, do they? millions of folks using linux now started on windows. linux is fundamentally a more securely designed system... and this slows its adoption.

linux actually gets folks to LEARN UP FRONT... to avoid problems later. most folks don't like the truth so they accept the msft lie and then wipe their drives...

however, that's all going to change once your magic digital elixir hits the net... we will all be free to roam the internet using ie6 with no protection, right?

right? that is what you claimed, right?

of the desktop market is missing a very critical piece, namely hardware support, specifically hardware based on new or recently developed

that isn't linux's fault. it impacts linux directly, but it isn't their fault.

yes, it is too much to ask the 98% herd to actually think before investing in a computer... and msft takes advantage of this laziness.

is it the fault of the hardware vendors. It's a side effect of one of the ideals central to the core of Linux, namely that source code for all

i can't speak to this - don't know enough.

are never going to accept, never, never, never, just not gonna

some have. others will. the usa *will not* drive linux. much of the rest of the world will. when the market gets bigger, and it is getting bigger all the time... everything else will follow.

was, a *lot* more hardware vendors would be willing to support it, after all more supported OSs means more hardware sold. Frankly though, I don't see it happening. I don't think the kernel developers really care if Linux has any significant share of the desktop market, nor do they care if it has support for bleeding edge hardware. It's for sure that the hardware vendors aren't going to release source code. It looks like a "Mexican standoff" is going to resign Linux to forever be a "niche" player

linux is taking over the governments of entire coutnries... one at a time...

that niche is getting bigger every day.