Dual boot problem 29

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:23:30 +0100, Enrique Perez-Terron staggered into the Black Sun and said:

mayayana's comment makes me think of this statement: "There are 2 kinds of people in this world--those who try to divide the world into 2 groups, and those who realize it's more subtle and complex than that." Where would I fit in mayayana's scheme? I work on the command line quite a bit, but I run KDE and use its apps constantly. "Keeping Linux difficult to use" is not on any Linux user's agenda AFAICT.

Good GUIs are actually kind of rare. (Sturgeon's Law applies to GUIs. Funny, that.) Most books go out of date too quickly when they're applied to things that move as fast as Linux and its apps do.

Er. Setting up a Debian Stable system didn't require any command-line fiddling when I tried it a week ago. The installer was character-based, but fairly intuitive. If I'd installed the "workstation" components, I think it would've automatically configured X for me.

Google "iOpener" and learn from other people's mistakes. The only way to make a complex device "easy to use" is to drastically limit its functionality, or require that users get training and are licensed to operate the device. (Cars are complex, yet nobody complains that stick shifts are "user hostile", because they get *trained* to use them.) Both approaches tend to pee people off to varying degrees.

Walking's easy because you've been practicing walking since you were about 1 year old. Operating computers is easy for me because I've been practicing it since I was 7. There's a pattern here, I think.

And how are you going to write this utility and compile it? (Well, kdevelop might work....) There are some things that are really easy to do on a command line and very difficult in a GUI; put the string this Message-ID" box, click "lookup message". (The guy I was talking to there said a GUI way to find all files inpath1 andpath2 that were also inpath3 didn't exist and he'd have to write it.)

"Learn to use your newsreader's Kill File or Twit Filter" in other words. groups.google doesn't *have* killfiles, which makes it much less usable than a Real Newsreader.

Can I get a "Amen"? Preach on, brotha!

Um. I thought grub-install had been deprecated, maybe ICBW. The sequence of commands for interactive GRUB is pretty easy:

hda1 , hd1,0 is hdb1 , etcetera to install GRUB's stage 1. hd0 is the MBR of the first disk.

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