MS Access 'equiv' for Linux 3290

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Then why use Linux? Why make Linux work their way? They are certainly "free" to do so, unlike some other OSes. Whether any of the rest of us would be interested is another matter.

You mean the way they are used to, ie., the MS way ;)

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Making "what" happen? Top of the charts with a bullet? Most popular at the prom? Most $ for the least security?

In fact, since you have such a clear idea of what you want or think the rest of the public wants, why don't you make it happen? Nothing in Linux to stop you. If you're wondering why people aren't beating a path to produce your desired end, go figure...

This "Access clone" question is so frequently asked that I'm tempted to start a site called "No Access here, please", or "Why no Access here, thank you."

Having used Access since day one (literally prior to general public release) I think I have a pretty good grasp of it's utility. In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing, surprising things can be done. In the hands of some doofus that reads a book or goes to the community college "Learn Access" weekend course, crapware is the result.

I've spent more hours (and other people's $) fixing these "db programming for dummies" dung piles than I care to think about. The MS illusion of "anyone can do it" on the cheap is a great "suck you in" marketing ploy that ties you to a proprietary file format, tools, and platform -- all under the benevolent guardianship of Bill-n-Ballmer.

I'll take Linus, Guido and (even) Stallman and Wall, any day, thank you.

"Update anomolies? We don't have no stinckin' whatevers. We use Access!"

If you had used Borland-Inprise Delphi to develop-deploy Windows db apps then you would understand both the promise and the difficulties of delivering on that promise. Delphi hits the streets and all prior butturances of "open file formats" from MS went the way of the Easter Bunny. Or was that the Cheshire Cat?

C# and .Net was mentored in by ... Borland's Anders Hejlsberg, who had overseen the birth and initial development of Delphi. Go figure...

However, the pros-cons of Access (or proprietary dbs in general) is grist for another mill.

Now, if you're wondering where I'm coming from, then you should have guessed by now that the MS "crush your compebreastors, what's good for MS is good for computing" mentatlity finally convinced me that Linux might actually have a chance at returning "science" to the "art" of computing. My hopes, so far, have not flagged.

*nix and Linux (in particular) is much less entralled with the notion of huge, lumbering, integrated solutions (excepting Moz and OOo). It's tougher, but in the long run better, to build apps and tools that can be used-integrated as the user deems is best. If your skills are not up to the task, beg, borrow, or hire a solution provider.

If your skills are not up to the task, you probably should beg, borrow, or hire a solution provider regardless of platform. You get what you pay for. Seems I've heard that somewhere...

Linux revives the notion of "best of breed" and extends it to mean "for the current application". This is just the idea that MS relentlessly crushed with the phantom of a "(MS) shrink wrapped solution for every problem". Bill-n-Ballmer learned well from the old IBM that nurtured them to fame and fortune;)

Get with the program($) ...

regards, prg