Microsoft Hatred FAQ 5154
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:47:27 -0700, David Schwartz Neither I, nor you, nor the...
I didn't say that *you* discussed force. I said it "was used". At that time, I was responding to a lot of different people about similar issues, and it is true that things said to me by other people will color my responses to you. I agree that that isn't always fair.
Peter T. Breuer snip So what I'm getting here is, that they abused their monopoly power to secure their initial deal with IBM. Which is what made them a monopoly. MS didn't have a monopoly...
It is an interesting debate tactic that rather addressing my claims, you simply note that they're different to the previous ones. Why does it matter whether they're the same or different exactly?
No, not at all. If a crime came up that wasn't force or fraud (say, possesion of "illegal" drugs), I would just as much insist that the difference between this type of crime and a crime involving force or fraud be kept in mind. It makes no difference to me who the actor is and all the difference in the world what the action is.
Actually, I wasn't aware of any cases where they actually committed perjury. I was more thinking of cases where they claimed they had no interest in developing a competing product to get advance information when they actually were developing a competing product or cases where they threatened a lawsuit that they knew had no merit. (These are, IMO, fundamentally equivalent to guns, though perhaps lesser in degree.)
Morally, lying in court is a tough one. For example, suppose you are in a court case with someone who is definitely lying in court. You are in the right, but it's clear the court won't believe you in the face of the lying and faked evidence. In this case, is lying in court fraud? Or is it justified in defense against an attacker willing to use fraud against you? So this isn't quite in the same category as force or fraud, because the court has the ability to balance credibility and control damage. No such balancing is available against a bullet in flight.
The Federal officials do wield force. The purpose of a trial is precisely to determine how force will be used.
Yes, different from the ones they are different from and the same as the ones they are the same as.
There is a huge difference between crimes that involve the use of force, fraud, the threat of force, and the like and crimes that don't. There is a huge difference between crimes that creat real victims and crimes that we have to pretend create notional victims.
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