The Information Operations Roadmap

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:52:09 -0800, donstockbauer

Now comes the "canned" speech about what's wrong with GG posting. It's offered as a learning tool, to help you get more, and better help, without upsetting old grouches, like me, in the process. Read it in that spirit. If you detect a note of anger, or frustration, it's not with you, but rather with GG, for their crappy implementation of their interface. ;-)

OK, let's start with the basics: Do you know what Usenet is? Do you know what a News Group is? How about a news server? Click on this link for the answers.

Google unfortunately decided not to use the standards of quoting on Usenet. A quick fix can be read on the following page:

If you want to get better help and learn more, please read on.

I sympathize with your problems, and am more than willing to help you solve them. To do so you should follow the correct quoting principles and good Netiquette explained in this FAQ available at;

While you are at it, read the whole document and the links provided in it as well. Lots of good things there.

Due to the bad quoting habits and the amount of drivel coming from postings done via Google Groups, numerous people have resorted in kill filing (not reading or responding to) all postings done with Google. This means fewer knowledgeable people that are able, or willing, to help you. Proper quoting, and good netiquette, will keep more from doing the same.

It's not your fault you got sucked into GG's bad habits. It will be your fault, if you don't act to remedy the situation. Remember this: it's in your best interest to keep these knowledgeable people happy, by following a few simple rules. If you don't, you will be the only loser.

To get the best possible result from your postings, it is better to use a newsreader or Usenet client. Linux has many dedicated news readers, as well as browsers with built in news readers.

News, and you'll see which news readers you have installed. If you're running something else, look for a good newsreader. Don't use an email program.

Find a Usenet server that you can post to. Your ISP probably has one. There are also free ones out there, that Google will help you locate. Type in "Usenet free servers". better yet, use this:

The one your provider has is most likely the better, faster and easier choice. Set up the news reader of your choice, download the groups list, type linux in the search box, then subscribe to alt.os.linux. and

When I see correct quoting from you, instead of what Google has been forcing you to do, I'll be right there to greet you, and help get you going. Until then:

I am out of here.

-- imotgm "Lost? Lost? I've never been lost... Been a tad confused for a month or two, but never lost."