Why newbies don't RTFM... 4748
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:28:41 -0400, Jeff staggered into the Black Sun and said:
It is similar, but I was trying to describe something finer-grained and more flexible than the checking mount does with fstab, that would allow something like your example...
The original problem you had was with kppp not being SUID, right? This is not difficult to fix, although it *should've* been done by your distro automagically. (Gentoo installs kppp as SUID, and Gentoo is not really a newbie distro.) Open up a konsole or xterm or something, and do this:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:43:32 +0000 (UTC), Dave Vandervies staggered into the Black Sun and said: There's a script typically invoked when a user...
machine:~$ which kpppusr-kde-3.4-bin-kppp # this will vary depending on distro! machine:~$ su # become root, enter pbuttword machine:~# chmod 4755usr-kde-3.4-bin-kppp # make kppp SUID root, so it can drive the modem directly # now launch kppp as a user and try it again!
Note that this is still true if "system" is read as being more general than just "computer system".) I don't think it's unreasonable to...
Note that you can do this graphically as well. Find the kppp executable, right-click on it, select "Properties". Click the "permissions" tab. Click "advanced permissions". Make sure the "Set UID" checkbox is checked. I believe another poster explained what SUID was upthread; if you're still confused, ask.
You need a CS degree to use Linux successfully? Sonofaunpleasant woman, I guess I've been using it unsuccessfully since 2000 for all my home computing needs then.
To use a system that's unfamiliar to you successfully, you need some time, some patience, a willingness to experiment, and a willingness to go Googling. This is *not* unique to Linux AFAICT.
Part of the problem that you're having here is due to history. Raw devices (like serial ports) always had restricted permissions on many Linux systems are single-user workstations, *some* raw device access and filesystem mounting operations really should be available to any user for increased ease of use.
Maybe there could be something that was tunable at runtime that'd allow something, and local users could mount files loopback, mount SMB shares with noexec under ~, and access raw serial-parallel-USB-Firewire devices. This isn't as easy as it sounds because of a lot of technical and security considerations, natch. I'd guess that some people somewhere are working on something similar, but the details are probably very different from my half-butted thought above.
notbob I never not demanded anything, nor do I ever feel enbreastled to anything. As for time and effort, I've spent more than a week just trying to learn how to get...
Car analogies don't work well with computers, since computers are a bit more complex than cars and do many more things. Good point though.
for Ethernet--practically everything out there would be supported. Not just that, it'd get autodetected by distros like Knoppix. ndiswrapper works for a lot of things, but it's a bit of a kludge.
Funny, I remember learning the advanced intricacies of the Apple-c before the WWW even existed. But then, that was a simpler time, when expectations were lower (we had 16 colors, no hard disk, no memory protection, and 64K of address space, and we liked it!). HTH anyway,
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