starting IMAPD, with xinetd 4838

Peter T. Breuer

Wow. I have never in 10 years of using FIDO and Usenet and UUnet ever responded to a jerk, as it usually creates flame threads and I make more than enough mistakes that I generally deserve the ocbuttional "RTFM." And if you had just said "RTFM, it's in there, you just missed it" that would have been fine as well. But do you really need to be so superior that you have to decend to being insulting and condecending?

I daresay that the man page is NOT enough for "the rest of the universe" a) because I have seen more than enough questions posted on newsgroups from countless people in which the man is not enough. In fact there are active threads in this very newsgroup discussing the fact that the man's tend to be unwieldy and unnecessarily complicated and not userfriendly. And like it or not, new people are getting into Linux more and more, and sometimes the man is less than helpful. I've been using Linux off and on since RH 5 and I STILL have problems with conveluted man's.

So just because you happen to have 20 years of experience and find that one particular man of the thousands of document files possible easy to read and understand, doesn't mean EVERYONE has to be an expert. There's more than enough to Linux where everyoine can be weak in some part of Linux to some degree.

And I had no idea that thanking people for advice, coming on here apologetically and asking kindly for any suggestions is "behaving like royalty." I thought my asking for help, after mentioning what I have already done to try to figure it out myself, and being polite and respectful, was a good thing and depicting humility, not royalty. If you want to see an example of "royal behavior," I think you may want to examine yourself before you project such qualities on someone else.

I mentioned I investigated if I was using inetd or xinetd. I mentioned I had found its config file, and a config for imap. I mentioned, WITH a cut-n-pasted error message, exactly what was happening with two different e-mail clients when they tried to connect via IMAP. I mentioned I was seeing no entried in the log files, or you bet I would have LASO cut-n-pasted those as well. I asked about restarting xinetd. A proper respose would likely have been "you may want to just 'reload' it, if that doesn't work, try this and note the error-message-whatever that you get."

You could have replied in one sentance "RTFM again because you're missing it," or at worst "just send the reload signal to xinitd and see what happens" but instead you had to be an eletist privates and degrade someone lesser than you in order to make yourself look like a big man, expert in all things technical. Pardon me for not coming out of the womb as expert as you and needing to ocbuttionally get advice and suggestions from people more knowledgable and experienced than myself. If there was some way I could have been more obsequious and self-denegrading and respectful and specific in my querey, please feel free to give me specific examples so I will not offend your ivory tower sensibilities again. Thank you.